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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 07 Aug 17 9.10pm |
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Originally posted by Chobham Eagle
I think a lot of people on here are missing the point. It's not about a handful of t***s writing offensive posts on here. It's about hundreds if not thousands of Palace fans singing homophobic songs at matches. Which I'll say again, hasn't happened for quite a while.
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| Chobham Eagle 07 Aug 17 9.14pm |
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Originally posted by Aray
Social media is a strange thing. People say things that I doubt they would say in person. I don't think Palace has a larger anti-gay fanbase than any other club. It's a shame we're (and Hol) being portrayed in this way to the wider world. Freedom of speech is very important but that does not equate to there being no impact- on other people's feelings or your reputation. I'd agree that Palace fans are no more anti-gay than any other club. If any other club were Brighton's arch-rivals they'd be getting the same focus as us now. But that in no way excuses the chanting of homophobic songs at matches. It's just wrong. Plain and simple
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| Chobham Eagle 07 Aug 17 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Which I'll say again, hasn't happened for quite a while. Which is great but probably only because we haven't played Brighton for a while. Regrettably it's bound to start up again when we do.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Aug 17 9.17pm |
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Originally posted by Chobham Eagle
Which is great but probably only because we haven't played Brighton for a while. Regrettably it's bound to start up again when we do. By very few I bet this time. Very very few. By the time we play them there's a chance some shaming will have happened to some other clubs.
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| Chobham Eagle 07 Aug 17 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
By very few I bet this time. Very very few. I fear you're wrong but I really hope you're right.
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| wordup 07 Aug 17 10.52pm |
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Originally posted by Chobham Eagle
I'd agree that Palace fans are no more anti-gay than any other club. If any other club were Brighton's arch-rivals they'd be getting the same focus as us now. But that in no way excuses the chanting of homophobic songs at matches. It's just wrong. Plain and simple I'd go further and say we're better than many clubs but you're right, there is a balance between freedom of speech and the impact of it. I'm against 'hate speech' being something that has any legal implication at all, so in actual fact I'm 100% pro free speech. However, people often forget that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence. Those projecting hatred can expect others to do the same, or to be told to do one, or will get banned from a forum or a game or whatever. If you don't play well with others, it's more often than not reciprocated. It's all about the hateful fringes really. That's where there is a problem. The vast majority just engage in good hearted banter and no-one gives a s***.
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| MrCParrot Taunton 07 Aug 17 11.23pm |
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at the end of the day this is about the HF Up the Palace, up the HF, bloody brilliant bunch of fans Palace
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| Dan1994 Wallington 08 Aug 17 12.06am |
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Originally posted by MrCParrot
at the end of the day this is about the HF Up the Palace, up the HF, bloody brilliant bunch of fans Palace I think this is a massively understated point, and the HF don't really both with anti- anyone chants, bar the "Can you hear x sing?" one.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 08 Aug 17 9.47am |
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Originally posted by MrCParrot
at the end of the day this is about the HF Up the Palace, up the HF, bloody brilliant bunch of fans Palace I do miss some of the old songs: We are on the right side, We are on the left side, The Famous Alan Mullery went to Rome to sign the Pope. You are my Palace, Ect
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| Dan1994 Wallington 08 Aug 17 9.53am |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
I do miss some of the old songs: We are on the right side, We are on the left side, The Famous Alan Mullery went to Rome to sign the Pope. You are my Palace, Ect The last two get sung all the time...
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| Aray South London 08 Aug 17 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Chobham Eagle
I'd agree that Palace fans are no more anti-gay than any other club. If any other club were Brighton's arch-rivals they'd be getting the same focus as us now. But that in no way excuses the chanting of homophobic songs at matches. It's just wrong. Plain and simple I think most sensible people agree that it isn't banter anymore.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Aray
I think most sensible people agree that it isn't banter anymore. I think most sensible people realise that sometimes it's banter and sometimes it isn't. Intent matters.
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