They are all of a kind but if we had a top 10 scumbag chart, Blair would be No1.
Not very intellectual but I got it off my chest.

Surestart was a good idea that worked, that pushes him behind Maggie and May.

Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace.

Thatcher was worse than Blair.

Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace.

Thatcher was worse than Blair.

No.

The point is that those who rant about politicians who query Brexit being "undemocratic" are spouting IMHO simplistic bilge,fuelled by pure bias against anyone they don't agree with.

There is nothing wrong in carrying on perfectly legally campaigning against a principle you are against after a referendum went against you for something contrary to the outcome of a referendum (or more pertinently a particular option in accord with the very general outcome of a referendum).To suggest otherwise is itself "undemocratic".

Your hero Farage stated he would do so if his side lost the referendum.You had no problem with that all all (rightly actually)But you only mouth off about pro EU people,never him.Its called blind bias and lack of a principled approach.

Referendums are advisory not mandatory...may be a drag for you when you are against a particular policy (though no doubt you'd answer the opposite if you were against a referendum outcome)...its part of our British "heritage" and "constitution"...that thing you guys are meant to consider of overriding importance to prevail (when it suits you).Referendums having their origin in non UK continental Europe!

Let's look at some past referendums: 1975 on Common Market: Did the anti EU campaigners then call a halt to their campaigns? Did they hell.Should they have?No

Referendum on changing the electoral system.Undemocratic for people to carry on still campaigning for a different system.Come off it guvnor,you are having a larf!

Referendum in Scotland:undemocratic for Nationalists to now campaign for independence.Only if you are not a democrat.

Referendum in Australia to get rid of the monarchy.Undemocratic to still campaign fore a republic? Only to an inherently undemocratic person.

Matthimself: would he have stopped campaigning on HOL for the UK to exit the EU had the referendum been lost? I humbly think not (and fair enough,after all the essence of a democracy is free speech and the right to campaign legally for what you believe in).

No?

Edited by legaleagle (17 Feb 2017 10.34pm)

No.

The point is that those who rant about politicians who query Brexit being "undemocratic" are spouting IMHO simplistic bilge,fuelled by pure bias against anyone they don't agree with.

There is nothing wrong in carrying on perfectly legally campaigning against a principle you are against after a referendum went against you for something contrary to the outcome of a referendum (or more pertinently a particular option in accord with the very general outcome of a referendum).To suggest otherwise is itself "undemocratic".

Your hero Farage stated he would do so if his side lost the referendum.You had no problem with that all all (rightly actually)But you only mouth off about pro EU people,never him.Its called blind bias and lack of a principled approach.

Referendums are advisory not mandatory...may be a drag for you when you are against a particular policy (though no doubt you'd answer the opposite if you were against a referendum outcome)...its part of our British "heritage" and "constitution"...that thing you guys are meant to consider of overriding importance to prevail (when it suits you).Referendums having their origin in non UK continental Europe!

Let's look at some past referendums: 1975 on Common Market: Did the anti EU campaigners then call a halt to their campaigns? Did they hell.Should they have?No

Referendum on changing the electoral system.Undemocratic for people to carry on still campaigning for a different system.Come off it guvnor,you are having a larf!

Referendum in Scotland:undemocratic for Nationalists to now campaign for independence.Only if you are not a democrat.

Referendum in Australia to get rid of the monarchy.Undemocratic to still campaign fore a republic? Only to an inherently undemocratic person.

Matthimself: would he have stopped campaigning on HOL for the UK to exit the EU had the referendum been lost? I humbly think not (and fair enough,after all the essence of a democracy is free speech and the right to campaign legally for what you believe in).

No?

Edited by legaleagle (17 Feb 2017 10.34pm)

Are you serious?

We need to do the right thing for our own citizens. Something that is alien to you lefties I appreciate.

And exactly how was Thatcher worse than Blair?

She helped rejuvenate this country from the decaying, backward, unproductive, striker ridden disaster it was in the 70's, won a victory against an aggressor in the Falklands and was a key player in winning the cold war to boot.

Blair resigned after pissing loads of money up the wall with little to show for it and got us into an illegal war along with his chum W.

Oh Behave.

From the above link...

But the figures still mean that the overall debt is growing. It climbed £92bn to £1.68tr, equivalent to 85.3% of the UK's gross domestic product.

The independent Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) will deliver updated public finance targets at the time of Mr Hammond's first Budget in a couple of weeks.

Its latest target for 2016-17 borrowing of £68bn is bigger than the £55bn predicted prior to the EU referendum.