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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 3.53pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Old BMJ article from 2021

Data indicate that neutralising antibodies last for several months in patients with covid-19 but gently fall in number over time. One study, published in the journal Immunity, of 5882 people who had recovered from covid-19 infection, found that antibodies were still present in their blood five to seven months after illness. This was true for mild and severe cases, though people with severe disease ended up with more antibodies overall.

All of the vaccines approved so far produce strong antibody responses. The study group for the Moderna vaccine reported in April that participants in an ongoing clinical trial had high levels of antibodies six months after their second dose. A study in the Lancet found that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine induced high antibodies with “minimal waning” for three months after a single dose.

Natural immunity appears slightly better than from the vaccines but there was some debate it may be more specific to the strain and give less broad based coverage.

It'll be interesting to see what they think currently.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 3.53pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Natural Selection surely?

Darwin would be proud.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Jul 22 6.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It'll be interesting to see what they think currently.

The Lancet, March 2022

Foremost, the scientific evidence must be considered. Specific to SARS-CoV-2, some results suggest that vaccine-induced immunity is more effective,3 other results suggest that natural immunity is more effective,4 and some findings estimate both options as roughly equal.5 All evidence appears to support that prior immunity helps reduce frequency of severe outcomes and prevents future infections. The scientific evidence thus supports an advantage for some level of protection beyond unvaccinated and uninfected, but further study is needed.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 6.33pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The Lancet, March 2022

Foremost, the scientific evidence must be considered. Specific to SARS-CoV-2, some results suggest that vaccine-induced immunity is more effective,3 other results suggest that natural immunity is more effective,4 and some findings estimate both options as roughly equal.5 All evidence appears to support that prior immunity helps reduce frequency of severe outcomes and prevents future infections. The scientific evidence thus supports an advantage for some level of protection beyond unvaccinated and uninfected, but further study is needed.

Not that piece is really saying much.....but the Lancet published the letter that denied any chance of Covid being from the Wuhan lab.

Personally I'm more trusting of the BMJ.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 6.59pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 7.35pm

US inflation rises to 9.1 percent......the real rate is probably much higher.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 02 May 23 9.30pm

its amazing how the Media kiss ass to Biden, and treat Trump like a criminal. The Trump visit has gotten so little publicity....its almost like a conspiracy.

and as for Biden ? what a muppet

[Link]

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

eaglesdare Flag 02 May 23 11.03pm

Would absolutely love it is trump got back in. The world fell apart since the election was stolen by the evil democrats.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 23 11.17pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

its amazing how the Media kiss ass to Biden, and treat Trump like a criminal. The Trump visit has gotten so little publicity....its almost like a conspiracy.

and as for Biden ? what a muppet

[Link]

Quite possibly because he has been indicted so many times he is one? Or certainly treated with a huge dose of suspicion.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 23 11.19pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Would absolutely love it is trump got back in. The world fell apart since the election was stolen by the evil democrats.

Is that a joke? Surely no-body actually believes that clap-trap anymore?

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 May 23 3.49am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is that a joke? Surely no-body actually believes that clap-trap anymore?

And if they do ?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 23 7.57am

Originally posted by cryrst

And if they do ?

It's further evidence of the way some people are prepared to believe without evidence because of a lack of trust in traditional sources of information.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 03 May 23 8.31am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's further evidence of the way some people are prepared to believe without evidence because of a lack of trust in traditional sources of information.

Pot Kettle etc.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 23 5.15pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Pot Kettle etc.

That's a very odd comment. I do tend to trust traditional, edited, regulated and overseen sources rather than the wild west lawlessness of social media and unrestricted internet sources.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 23 6.22pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think it is you who is doing the misreading! Go back to the original comment, and you will very clearly see that your interpretation is wrong, and mine correct.

My assertions are therefore valid. Something, if you have the experience you claim, you will understand even better than I do.

This constant targetting of a man who suffered such huge family traumas and then from addition and mental health issues, just to sling mud at his father is despicable. The Trump sons don't have any of that in their background, just privilege.

An apology would be nice, but somehow I doubt whether one will be forthcoming. We'll see.

Not having to read your idiotic posts would be even nicer.

I think that perhaps we have made a collective mistake by responding to your provocations for a little too long.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 May 23 6.48pm

Trump will be on GB News......interviewed by Nigel Farage at 7pm.

in other words, imminently. Or catch up on their media player.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Tunbridge Flag Tunbridge Wells 03 May 23 7.35pm

I tend to not like listening to racist liars!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 23 7.46pm

The contrast between Trump and Biden is quite stark.

Trump looks and sounds like a young man in comparison.

Perhaps enough Americans will wake up to the Black Lives Matter con trick pulled on them last time and vote accordingly.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 May 23 7.47pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Trump will be on GB News......interviewed by Nigel Farage at 7pm.

in other words, imminently. Or catch up on their media player.

I simply could not miss the interview with Donald Trump. It was exceedingly enjoyable.
I believe he has an excellent chance of being re-elected President and I fervently hope he succeeds.
He can 'Make America Great Again'.

I do not have a proclivity to contribute to the 'News & Politics'
threads, indeed I rarely even peruse them, however I thought I would have a peek at a Trump discussion.
Having expressed my view I shall now concentrate my efforts on the football debates,leaving others to express their views.


Edited by Willo (03 May 2023 7.57pm)

 

Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 03 May 23 8.07pm

I was going to post on here but I appear to be on the wrong planet - sorry.

 


I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 23 8.17pm

It's comedy gold when the mere sight of Trump triggers people who rarely even post in the Politics thread.

No doubt, the Lefty moron brigade will be wetting their gender neutral knickers nearer US election time.

 

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