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 Stirlingsays  23 Aug 17 7.34pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
The US pulled down statues of Saddam Hussein but I don't recall that being seen as Stalinist or for that matter when Russia took down statues of Stalin it wasn't seen as Stalinist either. Us British destroyed the Summer Palace in China in 1860. It was one of the country's most beautiful palaces and we did it out of spite...and because they wouldn't buy our drugs. When it comes to destroying buildings as acts of terrorism ISIS are amateurs compared to us. Just take a look at Iraq. What happens in war is hardly the same, plus didn't the Iraqis take it down as well? As for 1860? Are you serious man? You come up with an example as old as the US civil war itself?
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 23 Aug 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What happens in war is hardly the same, plus didn't the Iraqis take it down as well? As for 1860? Are you serious man? You come up with an example as old as the US civil war itself? Hope there no statues then, otherwise who knows what people would think in 2017.
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Ray in Houston  Houston 23 Aug 17 7.59pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
The US pulled down statues of Saddam Hussein but I don't recall that being seen as Stalinist or for that matter when Russia took down statues of Stalin it wasn't seen as Stalinist either. Us British destroyed the Summer Palace in China in 1860. It was one of the country's most beautiful palaces and we did it out of spite...and because they wouldn't buy our drugs. When it comes to destroying buildings as acts of terrorism ISIS are amateurs compared to us. Just take a look at Iraq.
We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football. |
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 23 Aug 17 8.02pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Wasn't it the Presidential Palace?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Aug 17 8.03pm |
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All this pulling down of old relics and yet Selhurst Park is still standing. Something is badly wrong with this world.
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| Oliver Bodega Bay 23 Aug 17 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Ironically, it was a statue of a Confederate soldier that got toppled and for which people have been charged. But the fact that such monuments have become lightning rods to the white supremacist movement in the U.S. is a good enough reason to move them to places where they can be displayed in the appropriate context. Leaving them in places of honour fuels the racist's fire. ^^^ I don't think people this side of the pond realise these monuments erected in the KKK's heydays act as a lightning rod for racists.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 23 Aug 17 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Wasn't it the Presidential Palace? It was called a lot of things along those lines, but (according to Wikipedia [Link] ) it had started being referred to as the "White House" in 1811.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 23 Aug 17 8.10pm |
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...KING NEWS...BREA... The city of Charlottesville has, today, covered up the statues of Lee and Jackson.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Aug 17 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
...KING NEWS...BREA... The city of Charlottesville has, today, covered up the statues of Lee and Jackson. To show solidarity with my liberal brothers, I threw a video copy of Jim Davidson Live in the garbage.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
...KING NEWS...BREA... The city of Charlottesville has, today, covered up the statues of Lee and Jackson. Liberace and Michael Jackson? For sex crimes? Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Aug 2017 8.38pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
To show solidarity with my liberal brothers, I threw a video copy of Jim Davidson Live in the garbage. Not sure you can just throw that in the garbage, you probably need to go through some sort disposal procedure, like with asbestos.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Aug 17 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it but personally I don't go with the idea that Elvis or the BBC were ignorant. They just saw these aspects differently to you. Elvis for example sang, 'If I can dream' which pretty much shows that he was very much aware. I don't think the BBC have ever been ignorant...even when they had the black and white show...I can just about remember it...elitist for certain....liberal, for certain.....a giant pain in the arse sure... but not ignorant.....These were different times with different perspectives. I'm closer to theirs than yours. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2017 6.48pm)
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