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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston It was called a lot of things along those lines, but (according to Wikipedia [Link] ) it had started being referred to as the "White House" in 1811. Shouldn't it be 'da house'? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

It was called a lot of things along those lines, but (according to Wikipedia [Link] ) it had started being referred to as the "White House" in 1811.

Shouldn't it be 'da house'?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 23 Aug 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by Oliver ^^^ I don't think people this side of the pond realise these monuments erected in the KKK's heydays act as a lightning rod for racists. Don't lightning rods act as lightning rods for racists. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2017 8.43pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Aug 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by Oliver

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I don't think people this side of the pond realise these monuments erected in the KKK's heydays act as a lightning rod for racists.

Don't lightning rods act as lightning rods for racists.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2017 8.43pm)

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Ray in Houston Houston 23 Aug 17 8.43pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Not sure you can just throw that in the garbage, you probably need to go through some sort disposal procedure, like with asbestos. Yep. It has a half-life of 2400 years. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50

Not sure you can just throw that in the garbage, you probably need to go through some sort disposal procedure, like with asbestos.

Yep. It has a half-life of 2400 years.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.44pm
Originally posted by nickgusset He also sang In the Ghetto... Though he was mugged for his rhinestones there. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.44pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

He also sang In the Ghetto...

Though he was mugged for his rhinestones there.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Don't lightning rods act as lightning rods for racists. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2017 8.43pm) Wasn't Lightning Rod a respected blues singer? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Don't lightning rods act as lightning rods for racists.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2017 8.43pm)

Wasn't Lightning Rod a respected blues singer?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 23 Aug 17 8.47pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Wasn't Lightning Rod a respected blues singer? If he wasn't, he should have been. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Aug 17 8.47pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Wasn't Lightning Rod a respected blues singer?

If he wasn't, he should have been.

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Ray in Houston Houston 23 Aug 17 8.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it but personally I don't go with the idea that Elvis or the BBC were ignorant. They just saw these aspects differently to you. Elvis for example sang, 'If I can dream' which pretty much shows that he was very much aware. I don't think the BBC have ever been ignorant...even when they had the black and white show...I can just about remember it...elitist for certain....liberal, for certain.....a giant pain in the arse sure... but not ignorant.....These were different times with different perspectives. I'm closer to theirs than yours. Of course this was a different time. You were the one who brought up Elvis' choice of material, I pointed out that it was from 1972 when things were different, after which you countered to me that times were different and that you somehow side with the BBC even though they're liberal elitists while running a black-face song and dance show. I have whiplash from reading your response. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 23 Aug 17 8.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it but personally I don't go with the idea that Elvis or the BBC were ignorant. They just saw these aspects differently to you.

Elvis for example sang, 'If I can dream' which pretty much shows that he was very much aware.

I don't think the BBC have ever been ignorant...even when they had the black and white show...I can just about remember it...elitist for certain....liberal, for certain.....a giant pain in the arse sure... but not ignorant.....These were different times with different perspectives. I'm closer to theirs than yours.

Of course this was a different time. You were the one who brought up Elvis' choice of material, I pointed out that it was from 1972 when things were different, after which you countered to me that times were different and that you somehow side with the BBC even though they're liberal elitists while running a black-face song and dance show.

I have whiplash from reading your response.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Stirlingsays 23 Aug 17 8.57pm
Originally posted by nickgusset He also sang In the Ghetto... He was alright, alright, alright. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Aug 17 8.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

He also sang In the Ghetto...

He was alright, alright, alright.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Aug 17 9.01pm
[Link] Better than Elvis.
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Better than Elvis.

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Stirlingsays 23 Aug 17 9.09pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston Of course this was a different time. You were the one who brought up Elvis' choice of material, I pointed out that it was from 1972 when things were different, after which you countered to me that times were different and that you somehow side with the BBC even though they're liberal elitists while running a black-face song and dance show. I have whiplash from reading your response. Well, this is what I responded to: 'Elvis recorded that in 1972. The BBC last aired an episode of the Black and White Minstrel Show in 1978. Just because more people were ignorant (dictionary definition - not pejorative) of such racism at the time doesn't make it ok now.' You used the word 'ignorant', your poor choice of word not mine and my response was in countenance to that....and pretty much proves that Elvis wasn't ignorant. The black-face show had a long history. I don't know if there was bad intent or not. I barely remember it, though it looks bad. Black people have been 'whitening up' all the time...never had a problem with it myself but that is my perspective. Accuracy helps with credibility. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Aug 17 9.09pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I have whiplash from reading your response.

Well, this is what I responded to:

'Elvis recorded that in 1972. The BBC last aired an episode of the Black and White Minstrel Show in 1978. Just because more people were ignorant (dictionary definition - not pejorative) of such racism at the time doesn't make it ok now.'

You used the word 'ignorant', your poor choice of word not mine and my response was in countenance to that....and pretty much proves that Elvis wasn't ignorant.

The black-face show had a long history. I don't know if there was bad intent or not. I barely remember it, though it looks bad. Black people have been 'whitening up' all the time...never had a problem with it myself but that is my perspective.

Accuracy helps with credibility.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 23 Aug 17 9.12pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Better than Elvis. Talented for sure. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Aug 17 9.12pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Better than Elvis.

Talented for sure.

[Link]

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Aug 17 9.13pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Better than Elvis. I do think Neil Young is a bit of a self righteous knob sometimes but he has done some great stuff. Living With War is a great anti Bush album and a great album. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Aug 2017 9.14pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link]

Better than Elvis.

I do think Neil Young is a bit of a self righteous knob sometimes but he has done some great stuff.

Living With War is a great anti Bush album and a great album.

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