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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Sep 21 4.03pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A superficial performance there are a few good bits notably on crime.

Causing unnecessary internal divisions, no major policies.

It is up to him to have a brexit policy, his was only to support Johnson.

Not a person I could trust.

Yeah, not to be trusted, not a clue and divisive! And in the blue corner, we have-not to be trusted, not a clue and divisive! The end is nigh!

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Sep 21 5.30pm

Originally posted by buzby1


Agree. Bold Labour policies needed not hand wringing. Country's desperate for proper leadership.

It has and the public would think the same if there was an election tomorrow.
The recent temporary issues will fade and the UK will be back to 'normal' within 6 months. Brexit will then prove its worth with unemployment dropping because lazy t***s will have to work. Its coming people and you socialists will need new pillows.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 29 Sep 21 6.03pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A superficial performance there are a few good bits notably on crime.

Causing unnecessary internal divisions, no major policies.

It is up to him to have a brexit policy, his was only to support Johnson.

Not a person I could trust.

The blokes a wet blanket who tries to please and pander to everyone, and so is a wishy washy nothingness. In modern politics you either need someone with a bit of fire in their belly, or where that's not an option someone who generally comes across well. Andy Burnham would've been a better choice for leader.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Sep 21 6.18pm

Looks like we can look forward to at least another term of Tory government.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Sep 21 6.18pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

The blokes a wet blanket who tries to please and pander to everyone, and so is a wishy washy nothingness. In modern politics you either need someone with a bit of fire in their belly, or where that's not an option someone who generally comes across well. Andy Burnham would've been a better choice for leader.

Yeah, there"s a couple of years to get rid of him, glass half full.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Sep 21 6.39pm

Another cog in a failed UK political machine.

All it is for is the vested interests of the few.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Sep 21 6.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Looks like we can look forward to at least another term of Tory government.

Just the one? Could be another hat trick before anything changes, if ever!

 

DanH Flag SW2 29 Sep 21 7.23pm

Performed well according to the snap poles after. Infinitely more Prime Ministerial than Johnson.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 29 Sep 21 7.32pm

Starmer's speech was worse than May's coughing speech!

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Sep 21 10.00pm

Sir Keir says no to re-nationalisation.

But Boris says yes, in fact its about the only thing he can do with the railways, and there are several other privatisation disasters waiting to be saved.

This is Corbyn territory, and energy and water look like musts, the public have shifted imo, they see failure and fat cat shareholders disappearing now they are bust.

Along with corporation tax increases it looks like a Corbyn tory government!

Not for Sir Keir though he will be too busy protecting the rich and kneeling before the USA even more than Boris.

Boris is not 'scummy', he is as Starmer said, perhaps though the phrase could be more accurately directed at the labour leader himself ??

Funny old game, isn't it.......

Now labour has announced the Corbyn era as gone, it is good to see the government adopting his policies in some areas, whereas the opposition will continue to be irrelevant Blairites!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Sep 21 11.39pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Just the one? Could be another hat trick before anything changes, if ever!

I said, at least another term.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 30 Sep 21 12.32am

I watched the whole speech, quite an odd mix. Parts designed to bring tears to eyes, I noted Jo Wilcox's sister was placed at the front next to the poor couple whose daughter was murdered.

Lots of the usual platitudes, every leaders speech at every conference has same.

Only number I came away with was 3% of GDP to be invested into " scientific research ".

As usual it's all non specific spending until " the Clause 5 " meeting.

All the stuff about his parents was irrelevant to me. I am interested in what the policies are, not the back story of the leader.

As pointed out on BBc afterwards, he goes on and on and takes ages to make a point.

All in all, if the conference was a boxing match, the Corbynistas lost on points but are still hanging around.

Rayner continues to be an embarrassment so happy to have her in a senior position.

I would be pleased to have a competent opposition that can hold the Government to account properly and I don't see that yet.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Matov Flag 30 Sep 21 11.36am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Now labour has announced the Corbyn era as gone, it is good to see the government adopting his policies in some areas, whereas the opposition will continue to be irrelevant Blairites!



I reckon Starmer could be out of the door within the year. The entire point of 'Project' Starmer was to effect the rule change around how leaders are chosen and with that now in place, I suspect he could soon be seen as surplus to requirements.

Ever since 2017, and Corbyn doing much better than expected in the GE, its been all about first getting rid, and then ensuring the likes of him never get a sniff of the leadership again. With Starmer at the forefront of it all be it the f***ING MENTAL second referendum manifesto pledge in 2019 to then lying through his teeth to win the subsequent leadership election to suspending Corbyn and now, to this conference and pushing through, on the back of some diabolical suspensions and so on, the changes to the leadership election process.

Now I loathe the Left and Labour from the bottom of my heart but what Starmer has been fronting is an absolute affront to anybody who believes in the right to have a political system as free and fair as possible.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Sep 21 12.01pm

Starmer is right to praise the achievements of the previous labour administration.

But the labour governments of Wilson and Blair were broad churches and kept the left onside.

He is doing the opposite, and has no vision to appeal to voters, not enough hope or even a bit of excitement.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 21 5.56pm

Sir Keir for rear of the year.

 


Red and Blue Army!

dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Sep 21 6.09pm

Someone told me Sakia Stama Is a Football fan. I said ‘Who?’ They replied leader of The lefties.

 

Jacey Flag 01 Oct 21 11.20am

So under Sir Keir,those genuinely hard working successful people with ' broad shoulders' will pay more to finance his out of control spending plans.
Increases in income tax and capital gains tax coming your way soon under his leadership as he courts popularity with the have nots and the damn lazy and lay abouts in our society.

Edited by Jacey (01 Oct 2021 11.55am)

 

Lombardinho Flag London 01 Oct 21 1.25pm

...is a member of The Trilateral Commission.
A puppet for The New World Order (the "build back better" brigade)
Not to be trusted.

 

The Dolphin Flag 01 Oct 21 2.17pm

Words mean nothing at any conference.
If we lived in a perfect world then their idealism would be wonderful.
Given that I don't trust any politician to spend my money wisely, I trust the left even less than what is in situ now and that's saying something!

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 2.34pm

Originally posted by Jacey

So under Sir Keir,those genuinely hard working successful people with ' broad shoulders' will pay more to finance his out of control spending plans.
Increases in income tax and capital gains tax coming your way soon under his leadership as he courts popularity with the have nots and the damn lazy and lay abouts in our society.

Edited by Jacey (01 Oct 2021 11.55am)

Think you mean Boris, he"s increasing income tax and national insurance, and done it already, what sir Keir might do in the event of him ever getting in, which is slim, is just Hans Christian Anderson! Concentrate on the Boris tax rises that are happening- not with whataboutery.

 

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