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Orange1290 Flag 28 Nov 21 7.13am

Originally posted by chris123

I think the stats are for refugees rather than economic migrants.


"Last year Germany had the largest number of asylum applicants in the EU (122,015 applicants)
, while France had 93,475 applicants. In the same period, the UK received the fifth largest number of applicants (36,041) when compared to other countries in the EU (around 7% of the total). This represents the 17th largest intake when measured by head of population, according to UN refugee agency."

France takes in nearly 3 times that of the UK and has a similar population.

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 28 Nov 21 7.23am

Originally posted by Orange1290


"Last year Germany had the largest number of asylum applicants in the EU (122,015 applicants)
, while France had 93,475 applicants. In the same period, the UK received the fifth largest number of applicants (36,041) when compared to other countries in the EU (around 7% of the total). This represents the 17th largest intake when measured by head of population, according to UN refugee agency."

France takes in nearly 3 times that of the UK and has a similar population.

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France also has twice the land mass of the UK, so population density is wider-spread (in theory). France also has multiple land borders within the EU (and Germany), whilst the UK is an island. Numbers tell part of the story. But Why people are so determined to risk their lives on dingys is key to resolving the problem.


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (28 Nov 2021 7.23am)

 


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Orange1290 Flag 28 Nov 21 7.29am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

France also has twice the land mass of the UK, so population density is wider-spread (in theory). France also has multiple land borders within the EU (and Germany), whilst the UK is an island. Numbers tell part of the story. But Why people are so determined to risk their lives on dingys is key to resolving the problem.


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (28 Nov 2021 7.23am)

only a small fraction make their way to the UK, the vast majority are settled in continental Europe. The minority that have family or language ties to the UK, head for the UK. Still a tiny fraction compared to the total that migrate to the rest of Europe.

The UK has a larger economy than France, so has the finacial resources to support more immigration. France has double the land mass of the UK but takes in nearly 3 times the number of Asylum seekers, so the UK is still significantly lower on its intake in comparison.

Edited by Orange1290 (28 Nov 2021 7.32am)

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 28 Nov 21 7.49am

Originally posted by Orange1290


"Last year Germany had the largest number of asylum applicants in the EU (122,015 applicants)
, while France had 93,475 applicants. In the same period, the UK received the fifth largest number of applicants (36,041) when compared to other countries in the EU (around 7% of the total). This represents the 17th largest intake when measured by head of population, according to UN refugee agency."

France takes in nearly 3 times that of the UK and has a similar population.

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Asylum rather than the illegals President Macron was referencing the other day.

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 28 Nov 21 8.02am

Asylum having a different definition from illegal. It's all about worderies, and the French can be just as tricky as the UK.

I get why the illegal's might be coming to the UK for friends or family, but perhaps family connections would assist a formal application ? Or perhaps they've already been refused.
It just seems incredibly bizarre that people are willing to not only risk death, but pay between £500-£3000 (source: Financial Times 27 november 2021) for the privilege.

And I see why the pregnant woman was one of the ones that perished the other day. Obviously, if she had her kid in the UK, it would give her preferential treatment.

And i read this morning that UK Border Forces are struggling to recruit. Some irony that French fishermen are willing to smash their boats into UK fishing vessels and illegally board them, but the French border Forces won't stop a few people on Dingy's. Perhaps the criminal gangs are more powerful than we think.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (28 Nov 2021 8.03am)

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 28 Nov 21 9.25am

I think when the President of France says illegal he doesn't mean legitimate documented asylum seekers.

 

Orange1290 Flag 28 Nov 21 1.10pm

Originally posted by chris123

Asylum rather than the illegals President Macron was referencing the other day.

Makes no difference, all of the numbers point to the fact that the UK takes far, far lower numbers of any type of immigrant than many other continental European countries. The UK should be taking in far more in order to share the burden with the rest of Europe.

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 28 Nov 21 1.20pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Makes no difference, all of the numbers point to the fact that the UK takes far, far lower numbers of any type of immigrant than many other continental European countries. The UK should be taking in far more in order to share the burden with the rest of Europe.

Not illegal immigrants over genuine asylum seekers surely?

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Nov 21 1.23pm

Originally posted by chris123

Not illegal immigrants over genuine asylum seekers surely?

Your pettiness and phoney argument is not getting anywhere.

 

Dubai Eagle Flag 28 Nov 21 1.24pm

I used to work for a Dutch company & whilst out to dinner with the sales director ( & others) one night the discussion turned to Immigration / Asylum seekers / Economic Migrants - largely because he was saying that at the moment there were more unsettled people in the world than at any other time ( except during the 2 x WW,s) he was quite dismissive of the miniscule numbers that the UK take compared to the other European countries-

One of the few times that I saw the vein on his head bulge with anger / frustration.

Originally posted by Orange1290


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France refugee statistics for 2020 was 436,100.00, a 6.91% increase from 2019.
France refugee statistics for 2019 was 407,915.00, a 10.74% increase from 2018.
France refugee statistics for 2018 was 368,345.00, a 9.25% increase from 2017.
France refugee statistics for 2017 was 337,158.00, a 10.72% increase from 2016.


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U.K. refugee statistics for 2020 was 132,349.00, a 0.55% decline from 2019.
U.K. refugee statistics for 2019 was 133,083.00, a 5.03% increase from 2018.
U.K. refugee statistics for 2018 was 126,708.00, a 4.01% increase from 2017.
U.K. refugee statistics for 2017 was 121,821.00, a 2.39% increase from 2016

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 28 Nov 21 1.29pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Your pettiness and phoney argument is not getting anywhere.

President of France calling them illegal.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Nov 21 1.37pm

A Brexit sold with the slogan “take back control” has left the UK with a border that is now harder to control.

The UK is even more dependent on collaboration with European neighbours who have much less incentive to be cooperative. There is now an empty chair where Britain should be sitting.

Baiting France with peurile point-scoring and phoney posturing have to stop before more people perish in the icy waters of the Channel.

Its not as if the UK would be trusted to honour any agreement anyway, that's how serious our position has become.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Nov 21 3.15pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Makes no difference, all of the numbers point to the fact that the UK takes far, far lower numbers of any type of immigrant than many other continental European countries. The UK should be taking in far more in order to share the burden with the rest of Europe.

I doubt net immigration into other European countries is higher by percentage of population. I expect some are close. The UK'S net immigration has been at record levels for years. Looking it up, the highest overall is Germany, next is UK. By percentage of population, Sweden is highest. UK is up there too. Doctored labels and figures abound but I suspect you trust the UN and Oxford University. Anybody with their eyes open can see the amount of immigration in the country.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Nov 21 3.56pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

only a small fraction make their way to the UK, the vast majority are settled in continental Europe. The minority that have family or language ties to the UK, head for the UK. Still a tiny fraction compared to the total that migrate to the rest of Europe.

The UK has a larger economy than France, so has the finacial resources to support more immigration. France has double the land mass of the UK but takes in nearly 3 times the number of Asylum seekers, so the UK is still significantly lower on its intake in comparison.

Edited by Orange1290 (28 Nov 2021 7.32am)

Actually quite a few arrive who have no family here and no ties to the English language….fact.
Portugal doing their bit?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Nov 21 5.04pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A Brexit sold with the slogan “take back control” has left the UK with a border that is now harder to control.

The UK is even more dependent on collaboration with European neighbours who have much less incentive to be cooperative. There is now an empty chair where Britain should be sitting.

Baiting France with peurile point-scoring and phoney posturing have to stop before more people perish in the icy waters of the Channel.

Its not as if the UK would be trusted to honour any agreement anyway, that's how serious our position has become.

Rubbish. Nothing has changed.

When will people like you realise that this is just the tip of the iceberg. We cannot have a situation that continues to allow refugees illegal or otherwise entering Europe. It is totally unsustainable and a huge threat to our security and way of life. The sooner we halt it, the better it will be for all Europeans.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Nov 21 5.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Rubbish. Nothing has changed.

When will people like you realise that this is just the tip of the iceberg. We cannot have a situation that continues to allow refugees illegal or otherwise entering Europe. It is totally unsustainable and a huge threat to our security and way of life. The sooner we halt it, the better it will be for all Europeans.

Those who support open borders never put a limit on it? Considering around 4bn people live in poverty and or not under a nice government you have to draw a line at some point otherwise we will be swamped. All we get though is this is a rich country, plenty of space (by the way are these the same people who are eco friendly and complain about building in the countryside).

Anyway good luck getting an answer on when is enough enough from the bleeding heart politicians.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Nov 21 5.34pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Those who support open borders never put a limit on it?

the flow of refugees will continue until the UK has a Civil War.

Which will happen, if we do not stop the madness.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Nov 21 6.52pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Actually quite a few arrive who have no family here and no ties to the English language….fact.
Portugal doing their bit?

I think he might believe that when inner London youths say ‘’Fam’’ to each other that they are actually family.

 


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Grumbles 28 Nov 21 6.55pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


Which will happen, if we do not stop the madness.

Well that's one step beyond.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Nov 21 6.55pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Those who support open borders never put a limit on it? Considering around 4bn people live in poverty and or not under a nice government you have to draw a line at some point otherwise we will be swamped. All we get though is this is a rich country, plenty of space (by the way are these the same people who are eco friendly and complain about building in the countryside).

Anyway good luck getting an answer on when is enough enough from the bleeding heart politicians.

Yep. At least Beckenham is pricey enough to keep this madness at a distance.

 


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