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Hoof Hearted 11 Apr 17 11.16am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I expect Cowes would be renamed Bulls.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Apr 17 11.30am

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f*** climate change. f*** the environment. f*** wildlife.

 

Hoof Hearted 11 Apr 17 12.12pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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f*** climate change. f*** the environment. f*** wildlife.

But you voted for remain and continued mass immigration to the UK?

Building all those new houses, hospitals, schools, roads, etc to cater for this influx of people and their offspring .... won't that affect climate change, the environment and wildlife then?

-.-'

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Apr 17 12.20pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

But you voted for remain and continued mass immigration to the UK?

Building all those new houses, hospitals, schools, roads, etc to cater for this influx of people and their offspring .... won't that affect climate change, the environment and wildlife then?

-.-'

I voted remain partly because I had an inkling that the UK government would say f*** climate change. f*** the environment and f*** wildlife.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Apr 17 12.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I voted remain partly because I had an inkling that the UK government would say f*** climate change. f*** the environment and f*** wildlife.

Yes because our contribution to all of those is so massive.

 

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 Apr 17 4.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes because our contribution to all of those is so massive.

Well to an extent, we may well be a part of that, given that manufacturing for products for the UK market largely occurs abroad.

But I'm also fairly certain that its futile to try to save humanity from itself. Mankind seems to be on a determined path to create its own nightmare cull.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Apr 17 4.12pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well to an extent, we may well be a part of that, given that manufacturing for products for the UK market largely occurs abroad.

But I'm also fairly certain that its futile to try to save humanity from itself. Mankind seems to be on a determined path to create its own nightmare cull.

Are you referring to the Eagles end of season clear-out??????

Regards

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 11 Apr 17 4.22pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well to an extent, we may well be a part of that, given that manufacturing for products for the UK market largely occurs abroad.

But I'm also fairly certain that its futile to try to save humanity from itself. Mankind seems to be on a determined path to create its own nightmare cull.

Indeed. There is a shocking sense of inevitability about it.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Apr 17 6.08pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well to an extent, we may well be a part of that, given that manufacturing for products for the UK market largely occurs abroad.

But I'm also fairly certain that its futile to try to save humanity from itself. Mankind seems to be on a determined path to create its own nightmare cull.

We are the proverbial culture in the Petrie dish using up its broth. We will die in our own s*** if we don't act decisively.
That said, the big players need to cut pollution and it's use of world resources if we have any chance. Britain is a speck.
Population is the biggest factor,locally and globally.

 

Hoof Hearted 12 Apr 17 10.19am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I voted remain partly because I had an inkling that the UK government would say f*** climate change. f*** the environment and f*** wildlife.

But by voting remain you and your fellow voters said fcuk climate change. Fcuk the environment and fcuk wildlife yourselves.

The multitude of new houses and attendant infrastructure necessary to cater for the additional millions of immigrants and their offspring will rely upon the concreting over of green grass, removal of trees and shrubbery and destruction of the UK wildlife habitat pretty much.

You need to rethink your priorities old chap.

Up till now you've been supporting remain from the economic angle.

If you truly care about climate change and wildlife you wouldn't want to see the UK turned into a concrete jungle would you?

(please don't reconstitute the article that says only 5% of the UK is built on or whatever silly % it actually was... I will only counter it again with details of land where it is impossible to build)

 

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 12 Apr 17 11.37am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

But by voting remain you and your fellow voters said fcuk climate change. Fcuk the environment and fcuk wildlife yourselves.

The multitude of new houses and attendant infrastructure necessary to cater for the additional millions of immigrants and their offspring will rely upon the concreting over of green grass, removal of trees and shrubbery and destruction of the UK wildlife habitat pretty much.

You need to rethink your priorities old chap.

Up till now you've been supporting remain from the economic angle.

If you truly care about climate change and wildlife you wouldn't want to see the UK turned into a concrete jungle would you?

(please don't reconstitute the article that says only 5% of the UK is built on or whatever silly % it actually was... I will only counter it again with details of land where it is impossible to build)

I believe it is 11% of all land is considered to be built upon, or 3% if you strip out gardens and parks within those areas.

But there is no question that environmental concerns were a legitimate reason to consider voting Remain. As Hrolf suggested the UK contribution to climate change is probably limited, but the EU as a combined bloc influenced by green policies could have had more impact (and indeed had greater negotiating impact in trying to encourage other territories to follow suit).

Plus you are assuming that if that "uncontrolled immigration" didn't come here then those people would simply not exist if you think not letting them into the UK stops environment damage? They still exist. They still do 'environmental damage' whichever country they live in.

 


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Hoof Hearted 12 Apr 17 11.54am

Originally posted by OknotOK

I believe it is 11% of all land is considered to be built upon, or 3% if you strip out gardens and parks within those areas.

But there is no question that environmental concerns were a legitimate reason to consider voting Remain. As Hrolf suggested the UK contribution to climate change is probably limited, but the EU as a combined bloc influenced by green policies could have had more impact (and indeed had greater negotiating impact in trying to encourage other territories to follow suit).

Plus you are assuming that if that "uncontrolled immigration" didn't come here then those people would simply not exist if you think not letting them into the UK stops environment damage? They still exist. They still do 'environmental damage' whichever country they live in.

Not necessarily.

If they stay where they are we have savings on air pollution (mostly around Heathrow) and savings on diesel fuel polluting the sea/air if they travel by boat.

By not coming here we are not forced to build homes and the infrastructure that supports them whereas their own countries already support their existence.

Seems to me we are creating pollution and ruining the wildlife habitat of the UK by encouraging mass immigration?

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Not necessarily.

If they stay where they are we have savings on air pollution (mostly around Heathrow) and savings on diesel fuel polluting the sea/air if they travel by boat.

By not coming here we are not forced to build homes and the infrastructure that supports them whereas their own countries already support their existence.

Seems to me we are creating pollution and ruining the wildlife habitat of the UK by encouraging mass immigration?

I have to question your pollution around Heathrow is higher because of immigration remark.
1. Do all immigrants charter their own flights or come on flights that are already scheduled and coming here anyway.
2. Using your logic, we should stop everyone coming here because of how they get here. Also don't those pesky tourists take up valuable resources?
Ridiculous Hoof, even for yeu.


On immigration... THE pesky ONS are at it again. [Link]

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Apr 17 10.09am

Damage limitation the way forward?
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Hoof Hearted 14 Apr 17 10.13am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I have to question your pollution around Heathrow is higher because of immigration remark.
1. Do all immigrants charter their own flights or come on flights that are already scheduled and coming here anyway.
2. Using your logic, we should stop everyone coming here because of how they get here. Also don't those pesky tourists take up valuable resources?
Ridiculous Hoof, even for yeu.

On immigration... THE pesky ONS are at it again. [Link]

Your remarks just go to show you are uncomfortable discussing anything to do with mathematics and logic....

Point 1 - Airlines schedule flights according to demand... they don't run them for the fun of it. Because of the higher and rising immigration experienced in these last 5 decades the Airlines have increased their flights to meet the demand... that is why Heathrow want another runway.

Point 2 - You are being silly and reactive... point 1 above explains my logic perfectly with regard to immigrants. Tourists are another matter and the amount of unnecessary flying that a lot of people do these days having numerous overseas holidays does concern me yes... and our planet suffers from all the pollution as a result obviously.

Please don't smugly dismiss my arguments when you don't understand them... my mathematical ability and logic is far superior to your own.... I have tried to get your brain to understand pensions in the past but you struggle with the concept.

Stick to simple things that you understand.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Apr 17 10.42am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Your remarks just go to show you are uncomfortable discussing anything to do with mathematics and logic....

Point 1 - Airlines schedule flights according to demand... they don't run them for the fun of it. Because of the higher and rising immigration experienced in these last 5 decades the Airlines have increased their flights to meet the demand... that is why Heathrow want another runway.

Point 2 - You are being silly and reactive... point 1 above explains my logic perfectly with regard to immigrants. Tourists are another matter and the amount of unnecessary flying that a lot of people do these days having numerous overseas holidays does concern me yes... and our planet suffers from all the pollution as a result obviously.

Please don't smugly dismiss my arguments when you don't understand them... my mathematical ability and logic is far superior to your own.... I have tried to get your brain to understand pensions in the past but you struggle with the concept.

Stick to simple things that you understand.

How many planefuls of immigrants do we get a day?
Are you saying that all the furore behind the fifth runway has at its root, unfettered immigration?
Blimey.

 

Hoof Hearted 14 Apr 17 10.47am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How many planefuls of immigrants do we get a day?
Are you saying that all the furore behind the fifth runway has at its root, unfettered immigration?
Blimey.

As I said earlier your feeble brain is not capable of making the leap from the concept of supply and demand.

Get a grown up to explain it you with mini eggs or apples.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Apr 17 10.49am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

As I said earlier your feeble brain is not capable of making the leap from the concept of supply and demand.

Get a grown up to explain it you with mini eggs or apples.

Are you saying that Heathrow are building a fifth runway because of immigration? Yes or no?

 

Hoof Hearted 14 Apr 17 10.56am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are you saying that Heathrow are building a fifth runway because of immigration? Yes or no?

You're starting to get irritating again and we are at the stage where I prefer to debate with others that don't employ your tactics and can accept at least some of what they read without resorting to repetition and other dodgy tricks.

I'm off limits to you again I'm afraid before I end up spending hours going round in circles.

You spoil it for everyone.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Apr 2017 10.57am)

 

.TUX. Flag 14 Apr 17 11.01am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Damage limitation the way forward?
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Crock.

 


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