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Ah yes, an insult not directed at anyone. Clutching at straws there
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It’s a little bit stupid black people calling each other it anyway, especially when claiming unfairness and all. It’s more an American thing though. Aren’t they all? And therein lies a lot of problems. Copying the best or worst of America(ns). It's not as bad as stabbing each other, then saying black lives matter. Oh,and how many rappers kill each other or encourage gang violence? Do Black Lives Matter to them? I guess football supporters booing is the real issue, clearly.
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Ah yes, an insult not directed at anyone. Clutching at straws there
In fact, by suggesting the words can by used by certain races but not by others you are in fact supporting racism by imposing double standards dependent upon race. It's just racism that you agree with. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 10.59am)
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's not as bad as stabbing each other, then saying black lives matter. Oh,and how many rappers kill each other or encourage gang violence? Do Black Lives Matter to them? I guess football supporters booing is the real issue, clearly. Yeah I know. Everyone up in arms about millwall (ignoring the other 4 grounds), which didn’t happen with the anti racist message, when there’s multiple postcodes near the area out for each other without a second thought to multiple knife wounds or murder. But let’s talk about bending the knee rather than making the biggest improvement for young blacks outside of school. All been imported from America. Nobody and I mean nobody who’s in positions to solve it want to or are allowed to.
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Originally posted by fishbone
I didn’t say that BLM would make the world better I’m asking for the fans to stop being bystanders and speak out to those dick heads or be seen to report them so we can drive them out of football! By standing there and keeping your damn mouths shut you are allowing them to grow! Which makes you part of the problem as you make their behaviour acceptable! What you describe sounds like a Nazi Germany for snowflakes.
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
There's no good reason for anyone to use that word. I find it abhorant but, if you can't see the difference in impact of it being thrown around by black people, in the direction of no one, compared to being used by white people as a derogatory term towards black people, you're a moron. So as long as it's used as an noun in a song its ok then. As I cannot see any other use of it.
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It normalises and encourages bad language and behaviour.
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Originally posted by cryrst
So as long as it's used as an noun in a song its ok then. As I cannot see any other use of it. I have better things to do with my time than complain about music. And what song is about me? If there was a song on last night's show called "madcap_v2 of holmesdale.net", please direct me to it. I'd love to hear it. Quite an odd post tbh You also, assume I was watching the MOBOs last night, when actually I only caught the tail end of it when my lady friend put it on, not really into the urban music scene as I used to be. Really can't stand this year's presenter "Chunkz" either.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
In fact, by suggesting the words can by used by certain races but not by others you are in fact supporting racism by imposing double standards dependent upon race. It's just racism that you agree with. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 10.59am) If you can't see the distinction between the two and how the meaning and intention of the word is different when it comes from a black person than from a non-black person, then yes, you are a moron. Don't be offended by that sweet'art. But if you want to go around calling black people, racial slurs, go ahead. Just admit you're a racist.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yeah I know. Everyone up in arms about millwall (ignoring the other 4 grounds), which didn’t happen with the anti racist message, when there’s multiple postcodes near the area out for each other without a second thought to multiple knife wounds or murder. But let’s talk about bending the knee rather than making the biggest improvement for young blacks outside of school. All been imported from America. Nobody and I mean nobody who’s in positions to solve it want to or are allowed to. I totally agree Rudi, and being from South London and seeing it now, that's why I will not support BLM. It's the ultimate hypocrisy and it's letting black people down. I don't know the solution.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It's even cut out of the Dambusters and the dog's grave/memorial has been edited.
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
If you can't see the distinction between the two and how the meaning and intention of the word is different when it comes from a black person than from a non-black person, then yes, you are a moron. Don't be offended by that sweet'art. But if you want to go around calling black people, racial slurs, go ahead. Just admit you're a racist.
As I say, you seem fine with the racism you agree with. I'm quite happy for anyone to use words or not use them independent of their race. I recognise that an insult is an insult but also that words only have the power that individuals give them. I don't operate double standards on that. What I will do is point out hypocrisy. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 11.48am)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As I say, you seem fine with the racism you agree with. I'm quite happy for anyone to use words or not use them independent of their race. I recognise that an insult is an insult but also that words only have the power that individuals give them. I don't operate double standards on that. What I will do is point out hypocrisy. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 11.48am) Outside of the football team we support, we don't agree on anything, and never will. And that suits me perfectly fine.
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Outside of the football team we support, we don't agree on anything, and never will. And that suits me perfectly fine. I don't hold it against you.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I totally agree Rudi, and being from South London and seeing it now, that's why I will not support BLM. It's the ultimate hypocrisy and it's letting black people down. I don't know the solution. Agree. I used to look at some of the outbursts and aggression you’d see from young black men and think they were letting their side or their own down. I try to ignore it as much as possible now. I used to have a black teacher who used to bore us senseless about Martin Luther King. I ended up realising why. He was trying to continue the good work and progress. There’s been an amount of letting those civil rights protesters down too. They didn’t put themselves in the line of batons for what’s happened and I doubt they’d be too impressed with the lack of action on knife crime either. There was a bbc documentary on about a month ago. They talked to various young black people about the riots. The one which would put the lid on BLM was about 6 people in a room advocating defunding the police. Yeah sure, a few might benefit from the extra funds for a while, but in the end it’ll end in ruin and ruin to their own areas and a return to gangsters in the mould of the Krays in other areas and probably professional security in the well heeled neighbourhoods. The poor always lose, that’s why there’s this public service thing. Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Dec 2020 11.57am)
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's even cut out of the Dambusters and the dog's grave/memorial has been edited. The ahem, N word was in common usage up until the 1960s at least. It was not used as an insult but just as a description of colour. It was regularly used for dog names and anything that was a certain shade of dark brown. Not directly related to slavery at all. Now in the brave new world of immigration we have to shiver in our shoes at the thought of using it along with a whole host of other phrases and sayings and anything else that it is decided has suddenly become 'offensive'. I have a message for them and it's not PC. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 12.11pm)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The ahem, N word was in common usage up until the 1960s at least. It was not used as an insult but just as a description of colour. It was regularly used for dog names and anything that was a certain shade of dark brown. Not directly related to slavery at all. Now in the brave new world of immigration we have to shiver in our shoes at the thought of using it along with a whole host of other phrases and sayings and anything else that it is decided has suddenly become 'offensive'. I have a message for them and it's not PC. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 12.11pm) Ha Ha really who told you that.
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Originally posted by Belmont
Ha Ha really who told you that. It’s true it was used as the name of a colour.
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