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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 14 Jun 17 2.02pm |
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They should all have a 24 gluey security guard on the ground floor ready to raise alarm to emergency services and all tenants. Cost about £100k all in. Cost of lives. Priceless.
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| paperhat croydon 14 Jun 17 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They should all have a 24 gluey security guard on the ground floor ready to raise alarm to emergency services and all tenants. Cost about £100k all in. Cost of lives. Priceless. who pays?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 17 2.10pm |
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Bloody daily mirror reporting failures of government that may have lead to deaths.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
who pays? They have.
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| paperhat croydon 14 Jun 17 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They have. Ok, let me re-phrase for you. Who would pay the costs of £100k for the 24 hr security for the block??
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 14 Jun 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
Ok, let me re-phrase for you. Who would pay the costs of £100k for the 24 hr security for the block?? They have.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 14 Jun 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Bloody daily mirror reporting failures of government that may have lead to deaths. Let's just wait until the FACTS as to what caused the fire and sad loss of death shall we before peddling our own personal agendas...you should know better!
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NickinOX  Sailing country. 14 Jun 17 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Probably just built long before strict regulations. Compare these 1950s and '60s hollowly blocks with balconies and wind tunnels to the new style although this new cladding and aluminium rumour cause sounds inexcusable. Some of these blocks near the river in south London have 24 hour manned security on the ground floor. If this one did a manual alarm could've been raised. This sh1t must worry every high rise council tenant around. I think it was a 1970s block. I used to visit this area when I worked for the Social, 25 years ago, and many of those tower blocks were death traps then.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 14 Jun 17 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by NickinOX
I think it was a 1970s block. I used to visit this area when I worked for the Social, 25 years ago, and many of those tower blocks were death traps then. 1974 from what I understand. Clearly lessons should be learned from this, and standards, designs looked at once more for new builds and refurbs to prevent such an incident again...
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jun 17 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Let's just wait until the FACTS as to what caused the fire and sad loss of death shall we before peddling our own personal agendas...you should know better! Edited by Lyons550 (14 Jun 2017 2.32pm) I agree, the use being made of this for political propaganda purposes is a disgrace. The stuff being broadcast on Radio 5's Afternoon Edition has been particularly odious.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 17 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I agree, the use being made of this for political propaganda purposes is a disgrace. The stuff being broadcast on Radio 5's Afternoon Edition has been particularly odious. I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f***ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.
Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 14 Jun 17 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f***ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.
Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) Would wager there are hundreds if not thousands of buildings that have safety issues and reports on them have been ignored because of funding. They have spent a lot of money on that particular block and seems made it a death trap with the cladding material used.
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