London town block fire
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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 17 9.49am |
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Absolutely shocking. Our prayers and thoughts go out to all those affected by the tragic loss of life and of course one can only wish the injured a full and speedy recovery. Truly shocking and tragic.
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europalace  Europe 14 Jun 17 10.31am |
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Listening to the media coverage it's as if they want the building to collapse in order to have a journalists field day, how sad that the media industry feeds off other people's misery.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 17 10.34am |
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Horrible tragedy. No words.
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Kermit8  Hevon 14 Jun 17 10.58am |
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Looking like a serious crime already.. Grenfall Action group "It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders. We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster. Unfortunately, the Grenfell Action Group have reached the conclusion that only an incident that results in serious loss of life of KCTMO residents will allow the external scrutiny to occur that will shine a light on the practices that characterise the malign governance of this non-functioning organisation. We believe that the KCTMO have ensured their ongoing survival by the use of proxy votes at their Annual General Meeting that see them returned with a mandate of 98% in favour of the continuation of their inept and highly dangerous management of our homes. It is no coincidence that the 98% is the same figure that is returned by the infamous Kim Jong-un of North Korea who claims mass popularity while reputedly enslaving the general population and starving the majority of his people to death. It is our conviction that a serious fire in a tower block or similar high density residential property is the most likely reason that those who wield power at the KCTMO will be found out and brought to justice! The Grenfell Action Group believe that the KCTMO narrowly averted a major fire disaster at Grenfell Tower in 2013 when residents experienced a period of terrifying power surges that were subsequently found to have been caused by faulty wiring. We believe that our attempts to highlight the seriousness of this event were covered up by the KCTMO with the help of the RBKC Scrutiny Committee who refused to investigate the legitimate concerns of tenants and leaseholders. We have blogged many times on the subject of fire safety at Grenfell Tower and we believe that these investigations will become part of damning evidence of the poor safety record of the KCTMO should a fire affect any other of their properties and cause the loss of life that we are predicting:"
Big chest and massive boobs |
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jun 17 11.06am |
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Some reports are suggesting arson.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 11.22am |
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There have to be more options for people living in tower blocks.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 11.35am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There have to be more options for people living in tower blocks. Not any more in or so close to central London. For the people paying that low level of rent and to get somewhere closer to the ground the alternative is Birmingham, hull or Glasgow. It's even a choice now for some. The modern high rises near East Croydon station.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 14 Jun 17 12.04pm |
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RIP. Let's hope that those accountable have the correct sentence handed down.
"Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support." |
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 14 Jun 17 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Some reports are suggesting arson. Source?
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 12.05pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Not any more in or so close to central London. For the people paying that low level of rent and to get somewhere closer to the ground the alternative is Birmingham, hull or Glasgow. It's even a choice now for some. The modern high rises near East Croydon station. True. I meant for avoiding death from a fire floors below. There must be more solutions to enable a much higher survival rate. Whether it's fire containment or escape options, there have to be solutions.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 14 Jun 17 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There have to be more options for people living in tower blocks. Obviously low rise. Many years ago I saw stats saying you could get similar population densities due to the amount of space taken up by the core of a classic high rise building. At least was not a similar build to the (badly maintained) world trade centres with the external core.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 17 12.10pm |
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exploding fridge mentioned, on fourth floor
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