How on this non existent (probably) god's earth did we get into this situation?

If they have just put him into the general prison population where there are over 15 percent of Muslims....I'm speechless.

That would be so stupid as to give thought to complicity.

I completely disagree with you. Even if you are a prisoner the state has a responsibility to keep you out of harm's way if that harm is obvious in advance.

This was very predictable.

Also people are breaking the law every day and have multiple anti social crime reps and they don't go to prison.

This crime was non violent, it was deserving of community service and a fine, not prison time.

Let's put it like this, if my view held sway it's very likely there would be one less dead man. (unless his death was unconnected to being inside)

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Apr 2018 11.32pm)

i dont actually disagree with your sentiments about a man is dead, his family have to deal with that, but this is the process.

he goes from court to his local prison, when he is booked into the prison he is asked if he needs to move onto a VP wing/regeime...they dont make anybody go onto that wing, unless its a very, very high profile crime, ala huntley etc.

he wouldav chosen not to go onto the protected wing due to the stigma attached to that. normal wings are full of woman beaters/racists/sex offenders/terrorists who are universally disliked by prisoners.

i would argue that anybody whose train of thought seems it a good idea to rub bacon over the door handles of a mosque, and leave bacon outside should be taken off the streets, especially as hes got previous convictions & obviously hasnt learnt his lesson.

No, he didn’t. If you adopt that line, you might just as well imprison the Monty Python mob for Life of Brian which was significantly more offensive to Christianity than anything this guy did. His conviction was kow-towing to islam. Nothing more and nothing less.

Defacing a place of religion.....even one I have zero time for and know is a real problem.....it's out of order and I don't accept that it can be done without consequence.

It's the wrong way to go about things.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2018 11.38pm)

Pork is banned in that religion, of course it is defacing it.

I am probably amongst the harshest critics of this religion and especially of the cover afforded to it. But my view that places of religion should not be interfered with is the same for all religions.

If he had expressed his opinion and not interfered with the building I'd have agreed with you.

He should definitely not have gone to prison by any means but it wasn't ok. Deluded or not people have the right to worship their god(s) without worrying about this kind of thing.

We just have to differ on this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2018 1.24am)