No. It’s the truth because they are true. Obvious and in clear sight to anyone with their eyes and ears open.

That I, and many millions of others, can see that is also true. That some can’t is sad, although many can, but pretend they cannot.

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It’s possible for the Mail to publish true stories and not then be “disparaged”!

I pick up on their more ridiculous spins where they don’t so much as tell whoppers as to deliberately miss context or other pieces of information, thus implying a completely different interpretation.

What that video was doing was showing footage of actual quotes that Trump has made. There’s no ambiguity about them. Nothing missing or other context. He said it.

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I haven’t commented on a Mail story for a while, certainly don’t every day and never do on sport, finances fashion, entertainment etc.

So there must be 100s of stories not dismissed. Take your pick.

Believing what you say to be true doesn’t mean it’s not a lie! That would be a great defence if it were.

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It’s just untrue. There are political stories there today (I just looked) which I haven’t commented on anywhere.

I don’t regularly look at the website. The only time I comment is when someone here uses their story as the justification for an opinion and having read it can see how it’s been spun.

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I am certainly particularly sceptical about the Mail. Not only because it a right wing rage pretending to be a newspaper but because I have an inside track on it.

My friend, who used to work there, was quite high up in the editorial team. He is a complete professional, able to take raw copy, rewrite it in the house style, extract the political points the paper would want to emphasise, remove those it didn’t and condense it to fit the space allocated. His personal politics are far removed from those of his employer but those were left at home. He though was very cynical about the paper and shared stories and frustrations. How he did it I don’t know. Why is easy. He was very well paid and good at his job.

No doubt others are as biased, but my friend didn’t seem to think so.

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Here are some more Republicans with views on Trump that differ from the MAGA crowd. There are some interesting and intelligent observations here, notably that during a second term Trump would not be restrained by the need to keep the voters onside. Any idea of staying in power for longer than the next 4 years would require him to assume extraordinary powers. There are several others though.

It’s worth watching, if only to hear at first hand the division that exists in the USA:-

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I'm hearing that EU nationals and Europeans are being told to leave Iran.

Not good news if true.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If true it means they expect either an attack or a round up for hostages. Human shields put in military targets

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Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.