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YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 24 8.00am

Originally posted by georgenorman

A good rule of thumb, is that if you have any doubts over an issue, see what Wisbelch is saying about it and take the opposite view - you won't go far wrong.

Do what he does all the time then!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 10.23am

Originally posted by Houston Eagle


And the other 50% of America has a priority of avoiding a repeat of the previous 4 years EVEN if that means Trump!!!

Biden and Harris must have been awful if it has come to this!

Looking at it from here it seems that the idea it has been awful is much more perception than reality. Recovering from a pandemic that was badly handled by the previous administration, having to handle the world wide impact of that of supply chain problems and inflation and then being hit by the war in Ukraine, it’s demands and impacts were all challenging.

Every western country faced these problems but the US has managed them better and its economy is performing well in spite of them.

The problem is the insular nature of many there. They don’t recognise the comparisons or think problems should impact them. They just think those problems must be the fault of the President. So it’s perception not reality.

Whether Harris can communicate that effectively enough to swing sufficient numbers her way is yet to be determined. Again from here she looks like the fresh new face that will appeal to those who respond to the oldest political message. That anything is better than what we have had before. Optics matter too.

She seems to be on a strong upwards trajectory with Trump now looking like the tired old man, out of anything but the same old rhetoric and insult. He is the one with the heavy baggage of convictions, accusations, obvious character flaws and age.

Too early to call but if I were a betting man I know where my money would go. Which is also in Harris’s favour. People like to be associated with winners.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 24 12.56pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Looking at it from here it seems that the idea it has been awful is much more perception than reality. Recovering from a pandemic that was badly handled by the previous administration, having to handle the world wide impact of that of supply chain problems and inflation and then being hit by the war in Ukraine, it’s demands and impacts were all challenging.

Every western country faced these problems but the US has managed them better and its economy is performing well in spite of them.

The problem is the insular nature of many there. They don’t recognise the comparisons or think problems should impact them. They just think those problems must be the fault of the President. So it’s perception not reality.

Whether Harris can communicate that effectively enough to swing sufficient numbers her way is yet to be determined. Again from here she looks like the fresh new face that will appeal to those who respond to the oldest political message. That anything is better than what we have had before. Optics matter too.

She seems to be on a strong upwards trajectory with Trump now looking like the tired old man, out of anything but the same old rhetoric and insult. He is the one with the heavy baggage of convictions, accusations, obvious character flaws and age.

Too early to call but if I were a betting man I know where my money would go. Which is also in Harris’s favour. People like to be associated with winners.

Harris will likely be very quiet except a few scripted sound bites and slogans. That will keep the general public from seeing just how unburdened with intelligence that she is. She's going to have to very carefully managed by her handlers. That doesn't bode well for the Democrats as they demonstrated zero ability to handle Biden's clear cognitive deficiencies. They'll have to up their game. Not sure they can get away with the postal votes this time either - I think largely ID is required but haven't looked into it. I may be wrong.
Expect to see Harris with the Obama's in the background in every photo the whole time. Frankly, they would have her on a tight leash but it isn't that necessary as she's not much of a threat to them. She lacks the guile and intelligence to be a real rival political threat.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 11 Aug 24 1.13pm

Still only 34 of the states require photo ID when voting. Each state sets its requirements hence the variation during elections!

Same with other controversial subjects such as abortion rights etc. Whilst I find that strange the picture of 5 UK’s fit inside Texas puts it into perspective l.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Aug 24 2.13pm

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Still only 34 of the states require photo ID when voting. Each state sets its requirements hence the variation during elections!

Same with other controversial subjects such as abortion rights etc. Whilst I find that strange the picture of 5 UK’s fit inside Texas puts it into perspective l.

Most still require the voter to be alive, the count of dead voters in 2020 is less than DT suggested but still in the thousands.

I would have thought one was too many

Edited by HKOwen (11 Aug 2024 2.14pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 24 2.36pm

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Still only 34 of the states require photo ID when voting. Each state sets its requirements hence the variation during elections!

Same with other controversial subjects such as abortion rights etc. Whilst I find that strange the picture of 5 UK’s fit inside Texas puts it into perspective l.

And a picture of a pint of Guinness covers the whole of Ireland.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 12 Aug 24 6.55pm

Looking forward to President Trump's interview with Musk.

As usual the EU are trying to censor the interview. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets taken offline in the EU and UK.

As usual "Disinformation" is anything that challenges their narrative or exposes their lies.

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 12 Aug 24 8.04pm

No one tells the truth. They are all hiding something.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Aug 24 9.16am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Harris will likely be very quiet except a few scripted sound bites and slogans. That will keep the general public from seeing just how unburdened with intelligence that she is. She's going to have to very carefully managed by her handlers. That doesn't bode well for the Democrats as they demonstrated zero ability to handle Biden's clear cognitive deficiencies. They'll have to up their game. Not sure they can get away with the postal votes this time either - I think largely ID is required but haven't looked into it. I may be wrong.
Expect to see Harris with the Obama's in the background in every photo the whole time. Frankly, they would have her on a tight leash but it isn't that necessary as she's not much of a threat to them. She lacks the guile and intelligence to be a real rival political threat.


From all I read exactly the reverse is true. The Republicans are struggling to keep Trump on message and to find the right message in the first place. Trump is on the back foot and stumbling out with tired old rhetoric that impresses no one. Not even his most myopic of fans. Harris looks fresh and lively. The attack tactic that she lacks ntelligence is quickly being dispelled and will have to be changed. She is performing well, is polling well and has chosen a running mate who looks capable of out scoring Trump’s by enough to make a difference.

I am pleased, still concerned but much more optimistic than a month ago.

I hate to tell you I predicted this. But I did.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Aug 24 9.27am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Looking forward to President Trump's interview with Musk.

As usual the EU are trying to censor the interview. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets taken offline in the EU and UK.

As usual "Disinformation" is anything that challenges their narrative or exposes their lies.

Apparently there was a 40 min delay which Musk claims was due to a “denial of service” attack! Obviously someone is switched on enough to switch them off!

I haven’t heard anything but a brief clip. That was more than enough. Sycophantic garbage. It is reported to have lasted for 2 hours, was rambling and unstructured with Trump just banging on about his usual lies and Musk agreeing with him. It seems there was nothing new worth reporting and that even the most devoted of admirer would either switch off, fall asleep or die before it ended.

I then heard a big stock holder in X complaining that Musk is damaging the company and needs to get out of politics before politics gets him out of X.

We’ll see.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 13 Aug 24 9.59am

Incase anyone wanted to hear the highlights of the fascinating conversation between Elon musk and President Trump:

[Link]

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Aug 24 10.23am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Incase anyone wanted to hear the highlights of the fascinating conversation between Elon musk and President Trump:

[Link]


You must be easily fascinated!

Paint drying would hold my attention better than that series of “ums”.

I got 4 mins in and my head was nodding!

If that’s the best that Trump can do he is in big, big trouble.

 


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NMPalace Flag 13 Aug 24 10.26am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Incase anyone wanted to hear the highlights of the fascinating conversation between Elon musk and President Trump:

[Link]

at least you've called it a conversation and not an interview. An interview would be with a journalist and not a fan boy

 

NMPalace Flag 13 Aug 24 10.30am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Most still require the voter to be alive, the count of dead voters in 2020 is less than DT suggested but still in the thousands.

I would have thought one was too many

Edited by HKOwen (11 Aug 2024 2.14pm)

the 2020 election was in the middle of covid so the number requesting postal votes increased massively (US postal numbers are usually higher than UK anyway due to the size of the country and lack of polling stations). Many of the older population request postal votes.

A postal vote is usually sent out a few weeks before the election date and usually needs to be returned a few days beforehand.

So it is 100% true that a small % of these people will die in the weeks between the postal vote and the actual election day. Surely that's accepted by all parties.

To muddy the water and claim conspiracy is poor

 

eaglesdare Flag 13 Aug 24 10.31am

The media and the lefty loons terrified of the fact that they both left a positive impression on listeners.

 

nead1 Flag 13 Aug 24 10.54am

Not what I have read and also from listening to bits of it; WE has analysed it correctly in his earlier posts - just the usual ramblings, incoherence and lacking in substance.

 

eaglesdare Flag 13 Aug 24 11.59am

Over 1 billion views. Fantastic achievement and efforts from Musk.

MSM can't handle it. They are currently in meltdown.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Aug 24 12.08pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Over 1 billion views. Fantastic achievement and efforts from Musk.

MSM can't handle it. They are currently in meltdown.

How so?

 

eaglesdare Flag 13 Aug 24 12.16pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

How so?

Google it.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Aug 24 12.34pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Google it.

No surprise a Trump fan is happy to lie I guess

 

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