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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him. The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence. However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with. Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was. Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of. I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
But down he goes. So shines a good deed in a weary world.
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Originally posted by DanH
Hiya. Obama cannot help being black. Trump can help being all the things that he is. Small, but I think you'll find, crucial, detail. That is undeniably true. However, my point still stands.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent c**t who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks. He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w***er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level. With Trump being one of those malice bearing conspiracy theorists. Pot kettle black.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent c**t who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks. He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w***er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided. You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb. Ironically, I really am enjoying the Trump Presidency, but yeah. I'd pretty much agree, its what happens when the choice is between someone who doesn't serve the agenda of the majority, and someone who deceives they represents the agenda of the majority. Ironically, you had a candidate who represented interests of capital and big business, and a candidate who pretended they wouldn't. The irony is that Trump isn't the problem, he's the symptom of a system that is inherently biased towards the interests not of voters, but wealth and the wealthy.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him. The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence. However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with. Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was. Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of.
His policies on tax and health care are objectively inefficient, inequitable and downright cruel. He's a liar and a hypocrite.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't like him then. Trump is what we deserve when we are complicit in accepting agendas that don't serve the majority. He is the ghost of Christmas dumb.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
His history suggests that but he won on a ticket of America for Americans. That is a powerful message when your standard of living is dropping, Mexicans are flooding into your country at an alarming rate and immigrants are blowing things up.
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about:
1) Obama put together the longest unbroken streak of private sector job growth in American history - dropping unemployment from over 10% to under 5% in the process; 2) Job growth (and GDP growth) has slowed under Trump, despite his claims to the contrary ("biggest ever!") 3) With a booming stock market, solid job growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation etc. etc., why would the sitting President be so deeply unpopular? Each new poll has his approval ratings dropping deeper into the 30s while, more alarmingly for him, his disapproval ratings are soaring into the 60s. Trump won Alabama last year by a margin of +28%. While not on the ballot this year, exit polls asked for approval / disapproval of Trump's performance, and the result was 48% approve, 49% disapprove. In a year he went from +28% to -1%...in deep red Alabama! Edited by Ray in Houston (13 Dec 2017 6.20pm)
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
But down he goes. Him, and the horse he rode in on.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I thought the malice toward Obama for being a Black man was sometimes astonishing but the vitriol toward Trump is on another level.
There is good reason for the vitriol directed at Trump.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I'm not astonished, the man is an incoherent c**t who's deliberately alienated the media (fake news), engaged in cronyism, deals entirely in self propaganda, deceit and is incapable of tact - who's own staff seem to regularly undermine his presidency with leaks. He wasn't likable on his own TV show (in which he was the ruthless, w***er boss). Its a bit like complaining that the press on Ted Bundy is very one sided. Haha, no you don't understand, we need to arbitrarily find one good thing to say about him for every bad, no matter how he piggish he behaves , what he spews out or how ill fitting he is for the role that the public appear to now agree he's not cut out for. Not doing that is 'unfair' :-D. We should put together a 'things that are great about Roy Moore' collage while we're at it.. or perhaps we can just let behaviour speak for itself rather than sugar coat. People tend to be remembered how they should be remembered.
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Originally posted by kenbarr
A few words about the Alabama Senate race. Roy Moore was an absolute embarrassment to the GOP. Nobody in the Senate wanted him, especially Mitch McConnell and Alabama's highly conservative senior senator, Richard Shelby. He went out of his way to say that he disapproved of and would not vote for Moore. In addition to the sexual misconduct allegations, he consistently violated the U.S. Constitutions prohibition against applying religious tests as stated in Article VI. This caused him to be removed as Chief Judge of the Alabama Supreme Court (an elected position) not once but twice. He has stated his preference for the days when slavery was permitted in the U.S. Had he won, he would have been the Democrats chief example of how bad the GOP is. Now they have Trump, who just described my Senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, as willing to prostitute herself for a campaign donation. As is his right!! But now that he's said a 'bad thing' we have to ensure that we say one good thing about him, else we are mindless haters. The only novel thing about what's left of the Trump presidency is seeing who's last to stay suckling at his teat. Edited by wordup (13 Dec 2017 7.03pm)
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Originally posted by wordup
As is his right!! But now that he's said a 'bad thing' we have to ensure that we say one good thing about him, else we are mindless haters. The only novel thing about what's left of the Trump presidency is seeing who's last to stay suckling at his teat. Edited by wordup (13 Dec 2017 7.03pm) It is interesting to see how the 'left' react whan they get a taste of their own medicine.
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Originally posted by wordup
Haha, no you don't understand, we need to arbitrarily find one good thing to say about him for every bad, no matter how he piggish he behaves , what he spews out or how ill fitting he is for the role that the public appear to now agree he's not cut out for. Not doing that is 'unfair' :-D. We should put together a 'things that are great about Roy Moore' collage while we're at it.. or perhaps we can just let behaviour speak for itself rather than sugar coat. People tend to be remembered how they should be remembered.
Being objective isn't having to praise people. Being objective is behaving like an adult instead of an emotive child.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It is interesting to see how the 'left' react whan they get a taste of their own medicine. It's child-like hate. White collar rednecks. It's the level it's at that gets me.....I mean, sure...slag off a politician you don't like.....but it goes far beyond that. At some point you deal with the policies and stop calling people names.....well some of us do.
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