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|    Hrolf The Ganger  02 Feb 21 3.42pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by cryrst 
 So the eu are reporting our vaccination program as dangerous because we rushed the approval. The very same vaccine that they approved on friday. The EU's behaviour over this has shown them in their true light. Thanks to everyone who voted us out of that power crazed disaster. 
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|  Stirlingsays  02 Feb 21 3.59pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 
 The EU's behaviour over this has shown them in their true light. Thanks to everyone who voted us out of that power crazed disaster. Tips hat. 
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|  cryrst  The garden of England 02 Feb 21 7.16pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 
 The EU's behaviour over this has shown them in their true light. Thanks to everyone who voted us out of that power crazed disaster. France not giving to over 65s. As not enough tests. 
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|    grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 02 Feb 21 9.46pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by cryrst 
 France not giving to over 65s. As not enough tests. 
 Their has been hardly any testing the trials that was done didn't even last 1 month with the control groups this is unacceptable and explains why they can't answer even simple questions. No evidence that covid-19 killed all those people almost all the people that have died with it have other health problems in science you have to prove cause they have not done this they have created an association they do the same with many other medical issues it's pseudoscience. Vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected this is why the flu still kills a fair amount of people and look how long a vaccine for that has been around. 
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|  Mapletree  Croydon 02 Feb 21 10.35pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by grumpymort 
 
 Their has been hardly any testing the trials that was done didn't even last 1 month with the control groups this is unacceptable and explains why they can't answer even simple questions. No evidence that covid-19 killed all those people almost all the people that have died with it have other health problems in science you have to prove cause they have not done this they have created an association they do the same with many other medical issues it's pseudoscience. Vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected this is why the flu still kills a fair amount of people and look how long a vaccine for that has been around. Please don’t take the vaccine. I just love natural selection, don’t you? 
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|  Teddy Eagle  02 Feb 21 11.19pm |    | 
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| Italy and Belgium not recommending vaccine for anyone over 55. 
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| BlueJay  UK 02 Feb 21 11.31pm | |
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| Originally posted by grumpymort 
 
 Their has been hardly any testing the trials that was done didn't even last 1 month with the control groups this is unacceptable and explains why they can't answer even simple questions. No evidence that covid-19 killed all those people almost all the people that have died with it have other health problems in science you have to prove cause they have not done this they have created an association they do the same with many other medical issues it's pseudoscience. Vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected this is why the flu still kills a fair amount of people and look how long a vaccine for that has been around. 1 - It's a pandemic, we don't have years to faff around with additional studies for years that will in all likelihood come to the exact came conclusions already reached, only with hundreds of thousands of additional deaths for our troubles in the meantime. OAPs should obviously be vaccinated ASAP. 2 - The 'they all probably died with or because of someone else' starts to look a bit unlikely as tens of thousands of additional deaths pile up each month. 3 - "Vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected" It would appear that it certainly stops a decent percentage being infected. Studies came out regarding that even today - "The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine may have a "substantial effect" on transmission of the virus, and a three-month gap between doses does not lower protection, according to a report. Tests results by University of Oxford, published in a pre-print report with The Lancet, showed a 67% reduction in positive swabs among those vaccinated." Edited by BlueJay (02 Feb 2021 11.31pm) 
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|    grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 02 Feb 21 11.32pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Mapletree 
 Please don’t take the vaccine. I just love natural selection, don’t you? 
 Nothing to do with natural selection. Their is a strict process which should be followed with these and it has been bypassed. A lot of people that have all these health problems are down to themselves sort your lifestyle/diet out. Edited by grumpymort (02 Feb 2021 11.35pm) 
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|  Mapletree  Croydon 02 Feb 21 11.48pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by grumpymort 
 
 Nothing to do with natural selection. Their is a strict process which should be followed with these and it has been bypassed. A lot of people that have all these health problems are down to themselves sort your lifestyle/diet out. Edited by grumpymort (02 Feb 2021 11.35pm) Whoosh 
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|  the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 03 Feb 21 3.26am |    | 
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| Originally posted by cryrst 
 France not giving to over 65s. As not enough tests. Oh but they are giving it to over 65s,when I got mine the average age in the room was around 75 or more and I lowered that average considerably Edited by the silurian (03 Feb 2021 3.28am) 
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|  cryrst  The garden of England 03 Feb 21 5.38am |    | 
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| Originally posted by grumpymort 
 
 Nothing to do with natural selection. Their is a strict process which should be followed with these and it has been bypassed. A lot of people that have all these health problems are down to themselves sort your lifestyle/diet out. Edited by grumpymort (02 Feb 2021 11.35pm) What about the people of all ages with no known underlying health issues? 
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|  palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 03 Feb 21 8.24am |    | 
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| Originally posted by the silurian 
 Oh but they are giving it to over 65s,when I got mine the average age in the room was around 75 or more and I lowered that average considerably Edited by the silurian (03 Feb 2021 3.28am) The Oxford/ AZ vaccine hadn’t been approved by the EMA when you had yours. You got the Pfizer vaccine which is not subject to any age restrictions in France. 
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