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 kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 14 Dec 17 1.12am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Typical unprofessional cringe from Trump. I don't know about how she handled it or who she is. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2017 7.51pm) Kirsten Gillibrand is one of two United States Senators from New York. The other is Chuck Schumer. They are both Democrats. Senator Gillibrand was appointed to the Senate when Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State in 2009. Her present term is up in 2018.
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Kermit8  Hevon 14 Dec 17 9.44am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Please explain how calling someone 'Pocahontas' is racist. I haven't refused to answer a question. How on earth am I'm expected to know about every situation where Trump gets involved in silly name calling? I cited Sanders as an opponent who doesn't buy into the 'hate' opposition to Trump. I have no doubt that there are others. What I am referring to and criticising are those that use language that far exceeds normal discourse on Trump. Those who complain about Trump but are a bit of Trump themselves. or often in excess....Hypocrisy.
Blimey, how many misogynistic, sexually abusing, nazi-enabling bigots do you know?
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It will reveal the workings of your....'formally conservative' Penge Eagle  Beckenham 14 Dec 17 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Rubbish! Please explain how this is.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 17 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Blimey, how many misogynistic, sexually abusing, nazi-enabling bigots do you know? 37.6
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| Stuk Top half 14 Dec 17 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Rubbish! Please explain how this is. There is a touch of the Rachel Dolezal about her claims.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 14 Dec 17 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Please explain how calling someone 'Pocahontas' is racist. I haven't refused to answer a question. How on earth am I'm expected to know about every situation where Trump gets involved in silly name calling? I cited Sanders as an opponent who doesn't buy into the 'hate' opposition to Trump. I have no doubt that there are others. What I am referring to and criticising are those that use language that far exceeds normal discourse on Trump. Those who complain about Trump but are a bit of Trump themselves. or often in excess....Hypocrisy.
Of course, you are not expected to know every example of a response to a Trump insult. However, by making sweeping statements about such things you claim exactly that. Hence me calling you on it and you pathetically trying to dodge the issue. As to Trump's insulting nickname for Senator Warren, that you can't figure out why it's racist speaks volumes.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 17 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Here we go again... Nearly a Whitesnake fan. Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Of course, you are not expected to know every example of a response to a Trump insult. However, by making sweeping statements about such things you claim exactly that. Hence me calling you on it and you pathetically trying to dodge the issue. Hang on....you don't get to tell me what I claim matey boy...I do. If you have specific issues with a statement cite it and argue it.....oh hang on is 'matey boy' a sexist term?....hell I don't care if it is or not. I never avoid questions that I know have been put to me. You might have to ask again if I miss it and you might not like the answer but I don't hide my views. Originally posted by Ray in Houston
As to Trump's insulting nickname for Senator Warren, that you can't figure out why it's racist speaks volumes. No, you made the claim, back it up.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 14 Dec 17 3.41pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
There is a touch of the Rachel Dolezal about her claims.
Ex-Senator and ex-nude male model Scott Brown tried to use this as an issue when the two contested Brown's senate seat in 2012. She beat him 54 to 46. Warren has gone on to be a loud progressive voice in the Senate; Brown has gone on to disgrace himself as the US Ambassador to New Zealand. [Link]
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| Ray in Houston Houston 14 Dec 17 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No, you made the claim, back it up. You are a joke.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 17 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
You are a joke. Joke racist.
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| Stuk Top half 14 Dec 17 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
In her early years she claimed to be part-Native American, because she was told by her family that she was part-Native American. She has never benefitted from programs specifically for Native Americans and has since dropped the claim because she does not know if it's true or not. Ex-Senator and ex-nude male model Scott Brown tried to use this as an issue when the two contested Brown's senate seat in 2012. She beat him 54 to 46. Warren has gone on to be a loud progressive voice in the Senate; Brown has gone on to disgrace himself as the US Ambassador to New Zealand. [Link] I don't think that Trump referring to her as Pocahontas (who is the only famous female native American) after she erroneously, or falsely, said that she is part native American. Her story about being told that by her family is a convenience. She was making these claims well into her 40s and beyond. It's not a racial slur toward her IMO, and neither is it detrimental to Pocahontas. It's taking the mickey out of a long standing and public mistake.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Dec 17 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I don't think that Trump referring to her as Pocahontas (who is the only famous female native American) after she erroneously, or falsely, said that she is part native American. Her story about being told that by her family is a convenience. She was making these claims well into her 40s and beyond. It's not a racial slur toward her IMO, and neither is it detrimental to Pocahontas. It's taking the mickey out of a long standing and public mistake. Really only famous for being the Disney character. I'd like to think that the president of the US would know who Cora Anderson was, but it might be expecting a bit much for Drumpf
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Dec 17 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Please explain how calling someone 'Pocahontas' is racist. I haven't refused to answer a question. How on earth am I'm expected to know about every situation where Trump gets involved in silly name calling? I cited Sanders as an opponent who doesn't buy into the 'hate' opposition to Trump. I have no doubt that there are others. What I am referring to and criticising are those that use language that far exceeds normal discourse on Trump. Those who complain about Trump but are a bit of Trump themselves. or often in excess....Hypocrisy.
Is it racist, maybe, maybe not, but its very demeaning and disrespectful to a person, to refer to them in such a manner rather than by their own name.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 9.16pm |
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Bit of a diversion, but mentioning Pocahontas reminds me of this ...
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| wordup 14 Dec 17 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Is it racist, maybe, maybe not, but its very demeaning and disrespectful to a person, to refer to them in such a manner rather than by their own name. Racist or not, It'd be like harassing a woman by constantly calling her Rosa Parks or Laquisha if she stated that she has some black ancestry. I mean what's the point? Sure some might get a thrill out of it because they see it as being anti PC or anti progressive, but it's still pointless and mean and that shouldn't be credit to a person, or something to applaud. It's just one of the many nods and winks to a section of supporters who get off on or are comforted by demeaning certain groups of people. It can be funny or unfunny depending of what your sense of humour is, but it's a core part of how he communicates to people about various groups and is very deliberate.
Edited by wordup (14 Dec 2017 10.14pm)
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 17 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Is it racist, maybe, maybe not, but its very demeaning and disrespectful to a person, to refer to them in such a manner rather than by their own name. Sure......it's a mockery of them and meant to offend. That's pretty much it. Accusations of racism for stuff like that are progressive sensitivities as usual.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by wordup
You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*gger, n*gger, n*gger." By 1968, you can't say "n*gger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*gger, n*gger." — Lee At***er, Republican Party strategist in an interview in 1981 What are the missing letters? Edited by nickgusset (14 Dec 2017 10.34pm)
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| wordup 14 Dec 17 10.41pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What are the missing letters? Edited by nickgusset (14 Dec 2017 10.34pm) Atw@ter :-D
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