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ChrisGC  Wantage 09 Jun 19 6.18pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
So true Exactly. These days you're a mug to let them get their hands out of their pockets as it'll probably have a knife in it, let alone ask them for a straightener, no headbutts or low blows. Multiculture for you. Enriching according to the left!
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.22pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Park Road
Dollardays, in the real world there is no such thing as a fair fight. Unfortunately, it's not 1940-50s Hollywood. chivalry, died a long time ago. It depends what you mean by fair. I would suggest that someone saying that they would 'jump on my head' is drifting someone from a notion of what any decent person would be expecting from a fight. Of course ChrisGC with his family that he clearly doesn't particularly care about, if he's filled with excitement about all of this apparently wild, head stamping fights he's been in or is egging on, is getting a little carried away and trying to relive his youth. That's his prerogative. As another poster said, as adults generally speaking people realise that if you keep having fights where you behave like this, it's not going to particularly end well for any of those involved. It's an unsustainable behaviour. Prison, brain damage, death? Oh what fun for the family. Someone didn't get enough toy soldiers as a kid.
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Park Road  09 Jun 19 6.22pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Exactly. Only doing what my Mum taught me. I'll pass that mentality onto mine when the time is right, they already know to speak to others how they wish to be spoken to. I'd much rather be the parent of a child who knew how to get out of a sticky situation then one grieving because their idealist child got kicked to death waiting for the rules of engagement to be established. Like you say, all in the upbringing. Well said!
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.26pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
So true Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd.
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.34pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Exactly. Only doing what my Mum taught me. I'll pass that mentality onto mine when the time is right, they already know to speak to others how they wish to be spoken to. I'd much rather be the parent of a child who knew how to get out of a sticky situation then one grieving because their idealist child got kicked to death waiting for the rules of engagement to be established. Like you say, all in the upbringing. Yes because hitting someone who has offered up no physical threat and saying how in your shoes you'd have stamped on his head.. before telling 'me' that if I wanted a fair fight you would also stamp on my head if really going to 'get them out of a sticky situation' isnt it. Real Father of your year stuff. If you act like this to people in real life you'll obviously cause more problems than solve them.
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| Park Road 09 Jun 19 6.36pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd. Dollardays, you're coming across a bit naive. Everything is situational? Well, yes! but we are talking about animal instincts, which is what we are, with the advantage of higher intelligence. If the bloke wasn't interested in a fight, then he would not have used such provocative words like racist. As said before, if your parents never told you about the dangers of insulting people you don't know, then live with you actions, and the consequences
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 cryrst  The garden of England 09 Jun 19 6.41pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Everything is situational isn't it and yes thats something wroth paying mind to. Your logic legalimises knife crime though. 'I best tool up and stab someone in case they're going to do the same to me'. Clearly the vast majority of fights aren't serious, as you well know, late night pub stuff.. and as such this idea that we should all instantly have some kind of no holds barred approach where we're head stamping away.. even in case where the bloody bloke clearly wasn't interested in a fight, is absurd. I don't advocate carrying blades at all.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 09 Jun 19 6.47pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
It depends what you mean by fair. I would suggest that someone saying that they would 'jump on my head' is drifting someone from a notion of what any decent person would be expecting from a fight. Of course ChrisGC with his family that he clearly doesn't particularly care about, if he's filled with excitement about all of this apparently wild, head stamping fights he's been in or is egging on, is getting a little carried away and trying to relive his youth. That's his prerogative. As another poster said, as adults generally speaking people realise that if you keep having fights where you behave like this, it's not going to particularly end well for any of those involved. It's an unsustainable behaviour. Prison, brain damage, death? Oh what fun for the family. Someone didn't get enough toy soldiers as a kid. Thinking back I've never jumped on anyone's head, but I absolutely would if opportunity had presented itself. If you're prepared to give someone the chance to get back up and do you, that's your choice. I'm usually good at avoiding trouble as I don't dish out insults to random strangers, avoid trouble pubs and can handle my beer (not quantity, I mean more the effect on behaviour). The fights I have had I've generally come out on top as I don't bollox about with all this fair fighting nonsense. That said, I have had a hiding or two, but that's life: what did I learn? If you can't get out of it, go down swinging and chucking glasses if you have to, f*** em. And always jump on their heads if you can...
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.49pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
I don't advocate carrying blades at all. Back to reality. I very specifically called out hitting a football fan who posed NO physical threat. I then took exception to the idea that he should've also had his head stamped on, saying that this wasn't anything approaching a fair fight. What I said is clearly accurate, reasoned, reasonable and anyone outside of some pack instinct fool would appreciate that. Saying 'oh some kids are wild and carry knives' so fights aren't fair and you've gotta do what you've gotta do, has absolutely nothing to do with the situation at hand.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 6.53pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Back to reality. I very specifically called out hitting a football fan who posed NO physical threat. I then took exception to the idea that he should've also had his head stamped on, saying that this wasn't anything approaching a fair fight. What I said is clearly accurate, reasoned, reasonable and anyone outside of some pack instinct fool would appreciate that. Saying 'oh some kids are wild and carry knives' so fights aren't fair and you've gotta do what you've gotta do, has absolutely nothing to do with the situation at hand. So you now isolate the 'situation at hand'
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.56pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Thinking back I've never jumped on anyone's head, but I absolutely would if opportunity had presented itself. Grand, in which case you would possibly be in prison, and they may have been brain damaged. You wouldn't have your family either in that case. Not as though they ever seem to factor into how you conduct yourself.
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.58pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
So you now isolate the 'situation at hand' If you bother to read the conversation it doesn't particularly take much effort to follow. The fair fight comment, came from the facts presented, because funnily enough that's what we were talking about. Edited by dollardays (09 Jun 2019 7.00pm)
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 6.59pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Park Road
Dollardays, you're coming across a bit naive. Everything is situational? Well, yes! but we are talking about animal instincts, which is what we are, with the advantage of higher intelligence. If the bloke wasn't interested in a fight, then he would not have used such provocative words like racist. I'm not saying it's some kind of unbelievable thing to have occurred. Clearly if you say enough stupid things to people someone will react. My point is that it's an assault caught on camera and that in his position that behaviour will not serve him well. If its that easy to get the guy to react, then the future is not bright. He also massively lets down any cause he proclaims to stand for with this stuff. There are tonnes of public figures that routinely get it in the neck, and they don't lash out violently at people clearly not anticipating physical conflict. Above and beyond that it was ChrisGCs disturbing head stamping comments about other and to me personally, something he apparently can't get enough of saying to people, that I felt the need to highlight. Though of course the group dynamics on here precludes people from particularly taking exception to low level behaviour from those on 'their side'. Thankfully, such a lazy approach also leads to numerous non-sensible adn baffling arguments because nothing said is ever really scrutinised. So it's swings and roundabouts really.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 6.59pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
Grand, in which case you would possibly be in prison, and they may have been brain damaged. You wouldn't have your family either in that case. Not as though they ever seem to factor into how you conduct yourself. Gord blimey
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 09 Jun 19 7.00pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
Yeah, we're people who think peados deserve a kicking. Whereas you're the sort of person who doesn't think they do and wouldn't administer it.... I know which camp I'd rather be in... Not sure what your point is. My point is I’d rather see the police do their job rather than annoint oiks like you two as some kind of ‘men of the people’ vigilantes. Especially when you’re passing this kind of behaviour off under the blanket of the classic ‘I’m a real man’ tropes. Garbage. Respecting others and Being able to handle yourself when required is not the same as thuggery. Nor does being attacked excuse it. Violence should only ever be used when absolutely necessary. Extreme violence when there are literally no other options left, and it’s do or die. That’s what the law is for. It’s what society is held together by, not a load of Ronnie and Reggie wannabes. In Robinsons case he over stepped the mark (again, he just can’t help himself) but I can see why he did it. That, however, is very different from wanting to stamp on someone’s head.
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 7.04pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
Gord blimey The point stands. If someone is saying that they wished they'd stamped on someones head, or they wouldn't stamped on this persons head, or they would stamp on my head.. all of which has been said here by the way, I think the take home might not be some sort of weak and feeble diversion tactic about how 'literal' I'm being. Coming from someone who seems to post poems instead of posts, I'm not sure that there is any lack of understanding coming from my side. Edited by dollardays (09 Jun 2019 7.04pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 7.06pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
My point is I’d rather see the police do their job rather than annoint oiks like you two as some kind of ‘men of the people’ vigilantes. Especially when you’re passing this kind of behaviour off under the blanket of the classic ‘I’m a real man’ tropes. Garbage. Respecting others and Being able to handle yourself when required is not the same as thuggery. Nor does being attacked excuse it. Violence should only ever be used when absolutely necessary. Extreme violence when there are literally no other options left, and it’s do or die. That’s what the law is for. It’s what society is held together by, not a load of Ronnie and Reggie wannabes. In Robinsons case he over stepped the mark (again, he just can’t help himself) but I can see why he did it. That, however, is very different from wanting to stamp on someone’s head. If the law upheld the law and actually investigated what TR told them this thread wouldn't exist.
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Jun 19 7.08pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
My point is I’d rather see the police do their job rather than annoint oiks like you two as some kind of ‘men of the people’ vigilantes. Especially when you’re passing this kind of behaviour off under the blanket of the classic ‘I’m a real man’ tropes. Garbage. Respecting others and Being able to handle yourself when required is not the same as thuggery. Nor does being attacked excuse it. Violence should only ever be used when absolutely necessary. Extreme violence when there are literally no other options left, and it’s do or die. That’s what the law is for. It’s what society is held together by, not a load of Ronnie and Reggie wannabes. In Robinsons case he over stepped the mark (again, he just can’t help himself) but I can see why he did it. That, however, is very different from wanting to stamp on someone’s head. Exactly right on both counts. Though of course what is right and what is decent is not always what's important. Here the comfort of group polarisation rules the day.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Jun 19 7.09pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dollardays
The point stands. If someone is saying that they wished they'd stamped on someones head, or they wouldn't stamped on this persons head, or they would stamp on my head.. all of which has been said here by the way, I think the take home might not be some sort of weak and feeble diversion tactic about how 'literal' I'm being. Coming from someone who seems to post poems instead of posts, I'm not sure that there is any lack of understanding coming from my side. Edited by dollardays (09 Jun 2019 7.04pm) Nothing wrong with poems me old son.
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