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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Sep 2015 12.02pm
Historically, the Israelis have no business being in the so called promised land. The whole premise is based on a questionable Biblical story written by Jews.
They have systematically stolen land from the Palestinians since the end of WW2. We must all take responsibility for this being allowed to happen.
It is ironic that the Israelis repaid us for our compliance by bombing British citizens in Israel because we wanted to restrict numbers arriving. Perhaps a lesson for the present.
The flip side is that Palestine is aligned with Islamic terrorists. Not a good position if you want help from the West. particularly the U.S who has a strong Jewish lobby.
Lesson over.
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Sep 2015 12.04pm)
You're on your own there, mate. Not something on my list of things I should take responsibility for!
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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| OldFella London 20 Sep 15 12.59pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 6.01am
More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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PETER HITCHENS: You wanted honest leaders - so stop whining now that you've got one
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Sep 15 5.08pm |
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
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| matt_himself Matataland 20 Sep 15 5.40pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 20 Sep 2015 5.08pm
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More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Quote oldcodger at 20 Sep 2015 5.03pm
PETER HITCHENS: You wanted honest leaders - so stop whining now that you've got one
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Take a bow, Mr Hitchens.
"And I might add, these freedoms were what the Spitfire and Hurricane pilots saved when they won the Battle of Britain. Some of them may have been unsure about the Monarchy, if they’d had time to think about it. And I wonder how many of the soldiers who slogged doggedly through the Western Desert, Burma, Italy and Normandy were a bit Left-wing, too."
Big chest and massive boobs
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Quote OldFella at 20 Sep 2015 12.57pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Sep 2015 12.02pm
Historically, the Israelis have no business being in the so called promised land. The whole premise is based on a questionable Biblical story written by Jews.
They have systematically stolen land from the Palestinians since the end of WW2. We must all take responsibility for this being allowed to happen.
It is ironic that the Israelis repaid us for our compliance by bombing British citizens in Israel because we wanted to restrict numbers arriving. Perhaps a lesson for the present.
The flip side is that Palestine is aligned with Islamic terrorists. Not a good position if you want help from the West. particularly the U.S who has a strong Jewish lobby.
Lesson over.
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Sep 2015 12.04pm)
You're on your own there, mate. Not something on my list of things I should take responsibility for!
I'm referring to the UN countries that allowed the state of Israel to exist.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 20 Sep 15 11.11pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 5.40pm
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Quote OldFella at 20 Sep 2015 12.59pm
Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 6.01am
More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm
Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 5.40pm
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More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!
83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.
Enjoy.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Sep 15 5.08am |
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Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm
Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 5.40pm
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More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
I am beginning to think that you are actually insane.
If I were you, I would temper your expectations somewhat.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Sep 2015 12.02pm
Historically, the Israelis have no business being in the so called promised land. The whole premise is based on a questionable Biblical story written by Jews.
They have systematically stolen land from the Palestinians since the end of WW2. We must all take responsibility for this being allowed to happen.
It is ironic that the Israelis repaid us for our compliance by bombing British citizens in Israel because we wanted to restrict numbers arriving. Perhaps a lesson for the present.
The flip side is that Palestine is aligned with Islamic terrorists. Not a good position if you want help from the West. particularly the U.S who has a strong Jewish lobby.
Lesson over.
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Sep 2015 12.04pm)
Your post is like a tribute to the god of politically biased half truths.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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| OldFella London 21 Sep 15 9.44am |
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Quote davenotamonkey at 21 Sep 2015 12.37am
Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm
Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 5.40pm
Quote nickgusset at 20 Sep 2015 5.08pm
Quote OldFella at 20 Sep 2015 12.59pm
Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 6.01am
More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!
83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.
Enjoy.
Post of the month - spot on.
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Sep 15 9.51am |
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Quote serial thriller at 20 Sep 2015 11.11pm
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!
83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.
Enjoy.
Post of the month - spot on.
Agreed...... Top class comeback dave!
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Quote davenotamonkey at 21 Sep 2015 12.37am
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Quote matt_himself at 20 Sep 2015 6.01am
More on the ComRes poll:
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
It's so sweet you actually believe that. Labour membership? Sure, why not. I can vote for an IRA-loving communist and stop Labour from getting into power for as long as this guy leads? Awesome! How much? £3?! I'll take 3!
83.3% of the £3 voters voted for.... Corbyn, the rest of the party went along for the ride to stick their collective fingers up at the Bl*ir and Burnham's of the party, likely egged on and socialmedialobotomised (as let's be frank, Tw@tter et al. are rammed full of this lot) by a combination of useful idiots (Owen Jones) and genuine false-flag operations. And it's worked perfectly.
Enjoy.
So that's one vote he's got then. Would you have voted for any of the other Labour candidates at a general election?
Thing is, if 83.3% of the £3 voters voted for him (and presumably signed up to do so) that's still a fairly substantial selection of the public who actually went to the hassle of signing up and voting for him (in excess of the Labour party membership and parliamentary labour party as well).
People made the same mistake writing off UKIP and they did exceptionally well at the General election, and only really failed to really become a major party due to the f**ked up nature of constituency democracy.
I don't think they'll win the next general election, but then I don't think any of the candidates could have delivered that anyhow.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Tory lead is 12%. Interesting to see UKIP holding firm at 13%, despite all the vilification in the press.
The part I find fascinating is the approval ratings of politicians and whether the public actually know who they are.
To NG and his fellow La La landers. You should read the above link. You are talking to yourselves!
Has only been a week. A week full of unsubstantiated half truths, out of context quotes and downright lies in the press.
It wont take long before the lead narrows
It's normal for new party leaders to get a bounce in the polls after the first 7 days of their tenure.
Just sayin'.
But then it's pretty foolish to start judging Corbyn based on conventional political standards, as has been shown time and time again in the past 4 months.
Here's a man who was given the biggest mandate in British political history to lead his party, having been almost universally written off as a no hoper. He's potentially going to lead the Labour party to 1 million members by 2020 in an age where the Tories are struggling to get in to 6 figures, and we have a self-professed communist as shadow chancellor. The past 10 weeks have thrown up more surprises in British politics, arguably, than had occurred in the previous 10 years. God knows what's going to happen in the next 4 1/2 years leading up to the election.
I am beginning to think that you are actually insane.
If I were you, I would temper your expectations somewhat.
Our current Prime Minister has previously had his p**** inside a dead pig (reportedly). If he can make it to the top of the tree, anybody can.
It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
- John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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More 'fit to work' joy today.
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It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
- John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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More 'fit to work' joy today.
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That report is pushed by a RUSSIAN company (RT) and I would think the guy topped himself because of other issues and not just only losing the money. It is rather sad but its a sign of the times I am afraid. In all areas of life certain people/things do slide out of the net with bad results. I would think it is for this sort of thing and reason that the government has changed the agency that does the medical checks to stop this sort of thing happening. I remember when back a few years and the Labour government was doing checks on the sick lame and the weary that people I know were sent back to work who should not have been so they got their doctors to insure they were rechecked and the results were different.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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More 'fit to work' joy today.
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That report is pushed by a RUSSIAN company (RT) and I would think the guy topped himself because of other issues and not just only losing the money. It is rather sad but its a sign of the times I am afraid. In all areas of life certain people/things do slide out of the net with bad results. I would think it is for this sort of thing and reason that the government has changed the agency that does the medical checks to stop this sort of thing happening. I remember when back a few years and the Labour government was doing checks on the sick lame and the weary that people I know were sent back to work who should not have been so they got their doctors to insure they were rechecked and the results were different.
I fail to see what the source has to do with the story. It was the first I read the story on, but you'll find it via various other sources if you prefer UK ones.
It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
- John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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More 'fit to work' joy today.
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That report is pushed by a RUSSIAN company (RT) and I would think the guy topped himself because of other issues and not just only losing the money. It is rather sad but its a sign of the times I am afraid. In all areas of life certain people/things do slide out of the net with bad results. I would think it is for this sort of thing and reason that the government has changed the agency that does the medical checks to stop this sort of thing happening. I remember when back a few years and the Labour government was doing checks on the sick lame and the weary that people I know were sent back to work who should not have been so they got their doctors to insure they were rechecked and the results were different.
I fail to see what the source has to do with the story. It was the first I read the story on, but you'll find it via various other sources if you prefer UK ones.
That story and others like it have been flying about for months now. The reason I mentioned the Russian news network was just for that reason. I then went on to explain my thoughts on the matter. So wind your neck in please its not worth getting in a state for.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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More 'fit to work' joy today.
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That report is pushed by a RUSSIAN company (RT) and I would think the guy topped himself because of other issues and not just only losing the money. It is rather sad but its a sign of the times I am afraid. In all areas of life certain people/things do slide out of the net with bad results. I would think it is for this sort of thing and reason that the government has changed the agency that does the medical checks to stop this sort of thing happening. I remember when back a few years and the Labour government was doing checks on the sick lame and the weary that people I know were sent back to work who should not have been so they got their doctors to insure they were rechecked and the results were different.
I fail to see what the source has to do with the story. It was the first I read the story on, but you'll find it via various other sources if you prefer UK ones.
That story and others like it have been flying about for months now. The reason I mentioned the Russian news network was just for that reason. I then went on to explain my thoughts on the matter. So wind your neck in please its not worth getting in a state for.
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This is different though. This man killed himself "as a direct result of being declared 'fit to work'", according to a coroner.
It's not a few people slipping through the net due to innocent mistakes. It's been thousands in the last couple of years. One death would be bad enough.
Edited by jcreedy (21 Sep 2015 4.23pm)
It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
- John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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