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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 9.19pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What I find most funny is your nauseating self righteous attitude. Now let me see. Who do I respect more, you or Winston Churchill? In fairness, you come in a dead heat with Hitler and Myra Hindley. Dear oh dear. That raised a titter. Good to see I come in a dead heat with someone you quote on here to form an argument. (Clue. It wasn't Myra)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 9.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What I find most funny is your nauseating self righteous attitude.

Now let me see. Who do I respect more, you or Winston Churchill?
In fairness, you come in a dead heat with Hitler and Myra Hindley.

Dear oh dear. That raised a titter.
Good to see I come in a dead heat with someone you quote on here to form an argument. (Clue. It wasn't Myra)

hedgehog50 Croydon 18 Oct 17 9.20pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Ok, let's have less crowbar-ing. Oliver Cromwell - traitor or not? Has revolution to overthrow a king who encroached on parliamentary rights - becomes more autocratic than the king he killed and closes down parliament. It is a familiar outcome for revolutions. French revolution, Napoleon becomes emperor and more autocratic than the king they killed. Russian Revolution, kill the Tsar and Stalin actually says to his mother "I'm like the Tsar" when she asked him what he did - of course he was of magnitudes more oppressive and autocratic than any Tsar. Mao-Tse-Tung - made the Chinese Emperors look like Town Mayors in terms of his power and oppressive rule. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 18 Oct 17 9.20pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Ok, let's have less crowbar-ing. Oliver Cromwell - traitor or not?

Has revolution to overthrow a king who encroached on parliamentary rights - becomes more autocratic than the king he killed and closes down parliament. It is a familiar outcome for revolutions. French revolution, Napoleon becomes emperor and more autocratic than the king they killed. Russian Revolution, kill the Tsar and Stalin actually says to his mother "I'm like the Tsar" when she asked him what he did - of course he was of magnitudes more oppressive and autocratic than any Tsar. Mao-Tse-Tung - made the Chinese Emperors look like Town Mayors in terms of his power and oppressive rule.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

elgrande bedford 18 Oct 17 9.23pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Ok, let's have less crowbar-ing. Oliver Cromwell - traitor or not? Have to stay out of this one kerms,as my other half is a distant relative.. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 18 Oct 17 9.23pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Ok, let's have less crowbar-ing. Oliver Cromwell - traitor or not?

Have to stay out of this one kerms,as my other half is a distant relative..

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 9.23pm
It's some situation we are in today. The republicans in the US are the defenders of free speech....along with what genuine liberals are left hanging on within the democratic party. The religious right within the republicans use to be who we had to worry about but now on PC questions of what you can say it's the right and the liberals who will tolerant speech. Shapiro is very sharp and a very old school republican.....So I disagree with him on many planks of policy. But on freedom of speech and expression I cheer everything he says. Ann Coulter, is a shock jock republican and I only really agree with her on immigration and freedom of speech.....but she's very presentable...so it's always enjoyable to look at those short skirts even if I don't agree. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 9.23pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Oct 17 9.23pm

It's some situation we are in today. The republicans in the US are the defenders of free speech....along with what genuine liberals are left hanging on within the democratic party.

The religious right within the republicans use to be who we had to worry about but now on PC questions of what you can say it's the right and the liberals who will tolerant speech.

Shapiro is very sharp and a very old school republican.....So I disagree with him on many planks of policy. But on freedom of speech and expression I cheer everything he says.

Ann Coulter, is a shock jock republican and I only really agree with her on immigration and freedom of speech.....but she's very presentable...so it's always enjoyable to look at those short skirts even if I don't agree.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 9.23pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 17 9.23pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Dear oh dear. That raised a titter. Good to see I come in a dead heat with someone you quote on here to form an argument. (Clue. It wasn't Myra) I quote Hitler to demonstrate that your attitude is not dissimilar. 'Fascism,' as you casually describe it, is as alive and well in the far left as it is in the far right.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Oct 17 9.23pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Dear oh dear. That raised a titter.
Good to see I come in a dead heat with someone you quote on here to form an argument. (Clue. It wasn't Myra)

I quote Hitler to demonstrate that your attitude is not dissimilar.

'Fascism,' as you casually describe it, is as alive and well in the far left as it is in the far right.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 9.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I quote Hitler to demonstrate that your attitude is not dissimilar. 'Fascism,' as you casually describe it, is as alive and well in the far left as it is in the far right. Gusset thinks fascists should not be given a platform as they promote hatred, discrimination and racism. Hrolf thinks gusset is a fascist because of this. One can only assume that you think fascists and racists should be free to spread their bile.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 9.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I quote Hitler to demonstrate that your attitude is not dissimilar.

'Fascism,' as you casually describe it, is as alive and well in the far left as it is in the far right.

Gusset thinks fascists should not be given a platform as they promote hatred, discrimination and racism.
Hrolf thinks gusset is a fascist because of this.

One can only assume that you think fascists and racists should be free to spread their bile.

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 17 9.54pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Gusset thinks fascists should not be given a platform as they promote hatred, discrimination and racism. Hrolf thinks gusset is a fascist because of this. One can only assume that you think fascists and racists should be free to spread their bile. It's not your hatred of fascists that is the problem. It is your stretching of reality to fit your wider agenda.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Oct 17 9.54pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Gusset thinks fascists should not be given a platform as they promote hatred, discrimination and racism.
Hrolf thinks gusset is a fascist because of this.

One can only assume that you think fascists and racists should be free to spread their bile.

It's not your hatred of fascists that is the problem. It is your stretching of reality to fit your wider agenda.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 10.01pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It's not your hatred of fascists that is the problem. It is your stretching of reality to fit your wider agenda. Oh dear. Now back to the EU. Hrolf, how would you persuade someone who is a bit reticent about Brexit, because basically it's a s*storm of w*ery performed by cockwomble incompetents which has lead us to being the laughing stock of the world, that things will turn out well?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 10.01pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's not your hatred of fascists that is the problem. It is your stretching of reality to fit your wider agenda.

Oh dear.

Now back to the EU.

Hrolf, how would you persuade someone who is a bit reticent about Brexit, because basically it's a s***storm of w***ery performed by cockwomble incompetents which has lead us to being the laughing stock of the world, that things will turn out well?

Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 Oct 17 10.11pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Stop putting words in my mouth. I'd hardly call the shock jock style of borderline racism conservative. You've been across the pond too long. I think people reading your reply can see for themselves that you think Shaprio and Coulter are fascists. Just like Breitbart readers and Trump supporters you mention in your post. And it's totally absurd. And it's your justification to shut down speech you don't agree with – using violent means. Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Oct 2017 10.14pm)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 18 Oct 17 10.11pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Stop putting words in my mouth.

I'd hardly call the shock jock style of borderline racism conservative. You've been across the pond too long.

I think people reading your reply can see for themselves that you think Shaprio and Coulter are fascists. Just like Breitbart readers and Trump supporters you mention in your post. And it's totally absurd. And it's your justification to shut down speech you don't agree with – using violent means.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Oct 2017 10.14pm)

Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 Oct 17 10.13pm
And Nick, you don't actually realise but far left and far right are all of the same.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 18 Oct 17 10.13pm

And Nick, you don't actually realise but far left and far right are all of the same.

elgrande bedford 18 Oct 17 10.14pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I think people reading your reply can see for themselves that you think Shaprio and Coulter are fascists. And it's totally absurd. And it's your justification to shut down speech you don't agree with – using violent means. Big brave b******s in a mob. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 18 Oct 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I think people reading your reply can see for themselves that you think Shaprio and Coulter are fascists. And it's totally absurd. And it's your justification to shut down speech you don't agree with – using violent means.

Big brave b******s in a mob.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 10.16pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Stop putting words in my mouth. Wow, such a hypocrite. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Oct 17 10.16pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Wow, such a hypocrite.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 11.55pm
So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground. Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 11.55pm

So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground.

Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit?

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Oct 17 11.58pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground. Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit? Oh Dear... Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Oct 17 11.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground.

Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit?

Oh Dear...

Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 17 12.01am
Originally posted by Jimenez Oh Dear... I know , fancy asking for a positive view of Brexit. It's not possible is it.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 17 12.01am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Oh Dear...

I know , fancy asking for a positive view of Brexit. It's not possible is it.

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Oct 17 12.04am
Originally posted by nickgusset I know , fancy asking for a positive view of Brexit. It's not possible is it. I don't know about that Davenotamonkey manages to make you look a bigger fool than you already are. That takes some doing .... Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Oct 17 12.04am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I know , fancy asking for a positive view of Brexit. It's not possible is it.

I don't know about that Davenotamonkey manages to make you look a bigger fool than you already are. That takes some doing ....

Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 17 12.05am
Originally posted by Jimenez I don't know about that Davenotamonkey manages to make you look a bigger fool than you already are. That takes some doing .... If you say so.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 17 12.05am

Originally posted by Jimenez

I don't know about that Davenotamonkey manages to make you look a bigger fool than you already are. That takes some doing ....

If you say so.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 19 Oct 17 1.13am
Originally posted by nickgusset So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground. Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit? I can imagine your outrage if someone on here said they condoned ring-wing political violence and that it was perfectly fine get in a mob to punch communists. Everything you say represents the far left, yet you laughably deny you're a communist and claim you are a social democrat. Why not have the gumption to admit you are far left? It's fine, I don't (completely) hold it against you. Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Oct 2017 2.11am)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 19 Oct 17 1.13am

Originally posted by nickgusset

So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground.

Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit?

I can imagine your outrage if someone on here said they condoned ring-wing political violence and that it was perfectly fine get in a mob to punch communists.

Everything you say represents the far left, yet you laughably deny you're a communist and claim you are a social democrat. Why not have the gumption to admit you are far left? It's fine, I don't (completely) hold it against you.

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Oct 2017 2.11am)

.TUX. 19 Oct 17 6.00am
Originally posted by nickgusset So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground. Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s* shower of a strong and stable Brexit?** No. Too many people are so fixated on Brexit being the economic 'be all and end all' that they continually miss the bigger picture. I've always said that Brexit will be the scapegoat when things turn bad. It's a deliberate (and far too easy) deflection away from those who have caused the real problems that we all face, to the 52%. Painfully simple. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

19 Oct 17 6.00am

Originally posted by nickgusset

So in the last few days I've been called a Communist and a Fascist. Corbyn was right. Labour are the new centre ground.

Now the EU. Can anyone make everyone feel confident about the current s*** shower of a strong and stable Brexit?

No.
Too many people are so fixated on Brexit being the economic 'be all and end all' that they continually miss the bigger picture.
I've always said that Brexit will be the scapegoat when things turn bad. It's a deliberate (and far too easy) deflection away from those who have caused the real problems that we all face, to the 52%.

Painfully simple.

Buy Litecoin.

hedgehog50 Croydon 19 Oct 17 7.30am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I can imagine your outrage if someone on here said they condoned ring-wing political violence and that it was perfectly fine get in a mob to punch communists. Everything you say represents the far left, yet you laughably deny you're a communist and claim you are a social democrat. Why not have the gumption to admit you are far left? It's fine, I don't (completely) hold it against you. Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Oct 2017 2.11am) Exactly - couldn't agree more. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 19 Oct 17 7.30am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I can imagine your outrage if someone on here said they condoned ring-wing political violence and that it was perfectly fine get in a mob to punch communists.

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Oct 2017 2.11am)

Exactly - couldn't agree more.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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