You have know idea how the long ball system works, it is about keeping the ball in the opponents half, that is the reason why in Patrick's post Pulis first question is does anyone have a long throw, it is not about elbows and thugs, when the ball goes over the full back he is pressured into giving a throw away, this is why Wimbledon and Coppell's Palace left the grass longer so it wouldn't roll out over the goal line, it was a premeditated system that the big clubs hated, and we had our most successful seasons

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

On perusing the comments apropos 'Long ball', I had a discussion with a coach steeped in tactical knowledge and he forwarded me the following :

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I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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I think that's an interesting analysis. The overriding thing I take away from it is that Brentford have signed players to play a certain way. We have players like Andersen and Wharton who are capable of going direct and at times they do. What we don't have are the traditional aerially dominant forward and speedy striker to play like Brentford. Without Toney and Mbuemo they couldn't go so direct and it showed in their results.

What Roy has to do is work out the best way of playing with the players he has at his disposal. To my mind in all the bleakness the one thing that has been proving effective is getting the ball to JPM's feet. He has proven to be highly effective at holding the ball when played to his feet and bringing others into play. If we were to go long against Everton their centre-backs will completely dominate. I don't rate either so much when defending on the ground.

That is putting it very mildly Lazy. Rude and a nasty piece of work . To go along with that . If he sid he had two brain cells id call him a f=====g liar .

This could be heaven or this could be hell .

I,for one, welcome the new philosophical turn of this thread.