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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
i dont want him to leave at all...selfishly i want him to see out his career with us. he has always moaned & thrown the odd tantrum...hes a fantastic football. be careful what you wish for. No you’re right. We need him until he retires and the times when he’s so slow or always injured. What after he retires anyway? Keeping a player who used to contribute but doesn’t and won’t anymore is no football or business strategy. It’s just fear of the unknown, if you haven’t got a plan or idea of what you’re going to do, which might be a relevant point regards us lol.
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Originally posted by slubglurge
In our 1st season back we stayed up comfortably without Wilf. He has been a fantastic player for us but he needs a change and so do we. We have become Zaha FC and not Crystal Palace FC and need to reclaim our identity from being a one man team I think firstly, I completely agree with your sentiment. He's not been the same this season, and we haven't been able to rely on him as we have previously so it is time for him to go and I think his performances this year have softened the blow for all. My issue or concern at the moment is the squad needs boosting with but most certainly without Wilf and I have no trust that will happen in any case but it's a far worse situation if he leaves. At least N Ferguson is a start although even that is unfinished Jan business.
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Originally posted by doombear
I thought on the whole Bats looked very good in his loan spell with us and 5 goals in 11 games is a very good return.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I think that is all he is worth to someone paying out hard cash? However he is worth more to us and more to the point, more to Parish who probably wouldn’t release him for that sort of money. I really have no idea how this is going to go this window. Then Parish is a fool and not a man of his word. Zaha wanted out last summer, out of respect he should have been allowed to go...
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Then Parish is a fool and not a man of his word. Zaha wanted out last summer, out of respect he should have been allowed to go... But no one met our ridiculous valuation.
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Originally posted by Casual
But no one met our ridiculous valuation. Answered your own question... and yes, Parish showed Wilf no respect by pricing him out the market - the word floating around was Wilf signed on big to help the sell fee - so naturally when Arsenal came calling, Parish not even meeting in the middle, that's foolish - cos look at the season we just had... Zaha isn't himself... we can all see that, was that due to the transfer saga, was that due to him putting his head down and working more on his defensive display, not worrying about getting the goals for us or something else?
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Answered your own question... and yes, Parish showed Wilf no respect by pricing him out the market - the word floating around was Wilf signed on big to help the sell fee - so naturally when Arsenal came calling, Parish not even meeting in the middle, that's foolish - cos look at the season we just had... Zaha isn't himself... we can all see that, was that due to the transfer saga, was that due to him putting his head down and working more on his defensive display, not worrying about getting the goals for us or something else? Er Arsenal offered just over £40 mil over a ridiculous number of years. The £52 mil Everton bid never happened.
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Originally posted by AERO
Quite simple really.If he doesn't go in this window he will see the rest of his career out with us for sure.Then we can build stronger and more youthful team around him.If he goes we spend a bit more on a Replacement and move on. I agree... I also think he has to buy into it too.. he can single handedly get us some silverware... a cup run, maybe even a chance to compete in europa... I always think, what would I do... if I were in these lads shoes.. money isn't an issue... it would be a case of, build the team up or I go... is he top 4 standard... we will never know and for all it's worth, he had his shot at united... and blew it.. he's in charge of his destiny - he knows where he is best suited.
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Answered your own question... and yes, Parish showed Wilf no respect by pricing him out the market - the word floating around was Wilf signed on big to help the sell fee - so naturally when Arsenal came calling, Parish not even meeting in the middle, that's foolish - cos look at the season we just had... Zaha isn't himself... we can all see that, was that due to the transfer saga, was that due to him putting his head down and working more on his defensive display, not worrying about getting the goals for us or something else? I think he has been carrying an injury, coupled with being somewhat shackled by our tactics and being double/triple marked every game. I like him in the free role up front when the double marking doesn’t occur so much
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Originally posted by Coach 3
To be honest Wilf needs to go, he wants away keeping him will not do either him or the club a lot of good. Personally I feel a move abroad would be the best for him and will let him play in the CL as he is unlikely to get any of the top 4 in England. The only issue will be if our board will spend any on the money we get for him. As things stand they seem to have a closed wallet policy. Good post,Wilf,s mind set is away from CP, he is not playing well and we are paying out huge salary each week so may as well cut our losses. His valuation is what we can get and certainly not 50mil plus as some are suggesting. Some reports suggest lucky if we get 30mil, whatever we get a slice has to got to MU. Just look at Sheffield U to see what smart spending and good loan deals can achieve!
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Not sure I see your point? Where did I say anything to the contrary? Let's say Parish sits down with Arsenal, you think that was going to be their final offer? C'mon... And look, a year has past... we have no money for Wilf, no real return this year and he looks to be off and as I said earlier, we will be lucky to get 40 mil... so we are no better off having parish say no deal. It’s not hard for Arsenal to pick up the phone and say ‘’55 Steve’’ is it? They didn’t do that. They tried to play silly fvckers via Zaha’s cling ons. I blame Parish for a few things, but not getting a sale from a bid that was never there isn’t one of them. I argued with Hrolf at the time we should let go at £60-£65 mil as Zaha’s head would go if we didn’t let him leave. Hrolf said no less than £100 mil. Hrolf was wrong, but then again our only offer was Arsenal’s so we got nowhere near the price I had in mind. Everton’s £52mil bid never happened. They’re pretenders. Edited by Rudi Hedman (23 Jul 2020 8.57am)
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I think he has been carrying an injury, coupled with being somewhat shackled by our tactics and being double/triple marked every game. I like him in the free role up front when the double marking doesn’t occur so much It was the passing straight back to the passer that was annoying me. He didn’t have 2 or 3 people on him either. Plus keeping out of play in January in case someone wanted to buy him was obvious to anyone.
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