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Stuk Top half 22 Nov 17 4.09pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 The EU is the biggest trader on the global scene. It's not exactly a failure then, is it? Keep burying that head of yours. You mean the EEA. And the difference between the two is staggering when you think that it's only a few countries more. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 22 Nov 17 4.09pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

The EU is the biggest trader on the global scene. It's not exactly a failure then, is it? Keep burying that head of yours.

You mean the EEA. And the difference between the two is staggering when you think that it's only a few countries more.

Optimistic as ever

Stuk Top half 22 Nov 17 4.15pm
Originally posted by Hansy The MHRA, work similar to the EU agency in regulating medicine products in the UK. Who do you think have been helping funds these agencies? You don't give the Uk as a whole credit enough. Project fear never works on the populous. Brexit, GE etc. Edited by Hansy (21 Nov 2017 7.14pm) Someone else who has decided to use knowledge and research. How refreshing. I'd give up with steeleye20, he has seemingly none of any subject he posts on and carries on his course regardless. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 22 Nov 17 4.15pm

Originally posted by Hansy

The MHRA, work similar to the EU agency in regulating medicine products in the UK.

Who do you think have been helping funds these agencies? You don't give the Uk as a whole credit enough.

Project fear never works on the populous. Brexit, GE etc.

Edited by Hansy (21 Nov 2017 7.14pm)

Someone else who has decided to use knowledge and research. How refreshing.

I'd give up with steeleye20, he has seemingly none of any subject he posts on and carries on his course regardless.

Optimistic as ever

Stuk Top half 22 Nov 17 4.19pm
Originally posted by Hansy You're stupid if you think it wouldn't hurt Germany. Indeed. The German business federations are s***ting themselves about it. They want the EU to back down, not us. [Link] Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 22 Nov 17 4.19pm

Originally posted by Hansy

You're stupid if you think it wouldn't hurt Germany.

Indeed. The German business federations are s***ting themselves about it.

They want the EU to back down, not us. [Link]

Optimistic as ever

steeleye20 Croydon 22 Nov 17 4.48pm
Originally posted by Stuk Someone else who has decided to use knowledge and research. How refreshing. I'd give up with steeleye20, he has seemingly none of any subject he posts on and carries on his course regardless. Yes I am staying with my point that the loss of the EU medicines agency to the Dutch cannot possibly be of any benefit to the UK.

steeleye20

Croydon 22 Nov 17 4.48pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Someone else who has decided to use knowledge and research. How refreshing.

I'd give up with steeleye20, he has seemingly none of any subject he posts on and carries on his course regardless.

Yes I am staying with my point that the loss of the EU medicines agency to the Dutch cannot possibly be of any benefit to the UK.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 Nov 17 4.47pm
The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities. Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry. The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn. This is a real shame, especially considering the hugely damaging effect Brexit will have on the arts in the UK. It's also a lot of hard work and expense from those cities down the drain. You'd have thought the government could have established this 17 months ago and not wasted all this time and money. Sadly they show their incompetence once again, and Breixt costs communities again thanks to this government's lack of a plan and complete incomprehension of reality.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 23 Nov 17 4.47pm

The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities.

Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry.

The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn.

This is a real shame, especially considering the hugely damaging effect Brexit will have on the arts in the UK. It's also a lot of hard work and expense from those cities down the drain. You'd have thought the government could have established this 17 months ago and not wasted all this time and money. Sadly they show their incompetence once again, and Breixt costs communities again thanks to this government's lack of a plan and complete incomprehension of reality.

hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities. Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry. The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn. This is a real shame, especially considering the hugely damaging effect Brexit will have on the arts in the UK. It's also a lot of hard work and expense from those cities down the drain. You'd have thought the government could have established this 17 months ago and not wasted all this time and money. Sadly they show their incompetence once again, and Breixt costs communities again thanks to this government's lack of a plan and complete incomprehension of reality. Oh no! No pointless 'city of culture' nonsense, whatever shall we do. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities.

Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry.

The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn.

Oh no! No pointless 'city of culture' nonsense, whatever shall we do.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

steeleye20 Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.19pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities. Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry. The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn. This is a real shame, especially considering the hugely damaging effect Brexit will have on the arts in the UK. It's also a lot of hard work and expense from those cities down the drain. You'd have thought the government could have established this 17 months ago and not wasted all this time and money. Sadly they show their incompetence once again, and Breixt costs communities again thanks to this government's lack of a plan and complete incomprehension of reality. Totally right another example of clueless incompetence from them, who cares anywhere what they think or what the labour party think either anymore. Labour would be stuffing brown envelopes full of money for Junckers just the same. Help!! Perhaps Ken Clarke could be Churchill ? It's that desperate.

steeleye20

Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The European Commission has cancelled the UK's turn to host the European Capital of Culture after Brexit, disappointing the bidding cities.

Five places have already bid to hold the title in 2023 - Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast/Derry.

The government has said they don't agree with this decision. Another example of government rhetoric being totally disengaged from reality and their negotiations hitting failure at every turn.

Totally right another example of clueless incompetence from them, who cares anywhere what they think or what the labour party think either anymore.

Labour would be stuffing brown envelopes full of money for Junckers just the same.

Help!!

Perhaps Ken Clarke could be Churchill ?

It's that desperate.

hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.21pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Totally right another example of clueless incompetence from them, who cares anywhere what they think or what the labour party think either anymore. Labour would be stuffing brown envelopes full of money for Junckers just the same. Help!! Perhaps Ken Clarke could be Churchill ? It's that desperate. He would fight them in the jazz clubs, in the bars, he will never accept the result. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 23 Nov 17 5.21pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Totally right another example of clueless incompetence from them, who cares anywhere what they think or what the labour party think either anymore.

Labour would be stuffing brown envelopes full of money for Junckers just the same.

Help!!

Perhaps Ken Clarke could be Churchill ?

It's that desperate.

He would fight them in the jazz clubs, in the bars, he will never accept the result.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Kermit8 Hevon 23 Nov 17 8.33pm
Daily Telegraph - that scaremongering leftie rag "Britain must accept higher levels of immigration from India if it hopes to sign a free trade agreement after Brexit, a senior Indian diplomat has warned, as he predicted it could take up to a decade to secure the deal. YK Sinha, India’s High Commissioner to the UK, said "freer movement of people and professionals" had to form part of any future deal to ensure it was “mutually beneficial.” Speaking to Indian business leaders in London, Mr Sinha said he was “very confident” that a “winning partnership” between the two countries would emerge after Britain's departure from the EU. However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030. Thing is we will probably need more Asian immigration to fill the gaps left by the Europeans. I am not at all sure the Brexiteers had thought this one through amongst the 101 other things they hadn't either. Edited by Kermit8 (23 Nov 2017 8.38pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 23 Nov 17 8.33pm

Daily Telegraph - that scaremongering leftie rag

"Britain must accept higher levels of immigration from India if it hopes to sign a free trade agreement after Brexit, a senior Indian diplomat has warned, as he predicted it could take up to a decade to secure the deal.

YK Sinha, India’s High Commissioner to the UK, said "freer movement of people and professionals" had to form part of any future deal to ensure it was “mutually beneficial.”

Speaking to Indian business leaders in London, Mr Sinha said he was “very confident” that a “winning partnership” between the two countries would emerge after Britain's departure from the EU.

However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030.

Thing is we will probably need more Asian immigration to fill the gaps left by the Europeans. I am not at all sure the Brexiteers had thought this one through amongst the 101 other things they hadn't either.

Edited by Kermit8 (23 Nov 2017 8.38pm)

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Nov 17 8.41pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Daily Telegraph - that scaremongering leftie rag "Britain must accept higher levels of immigration from India if it hopes to sign a free trade agreement after Brexit, a senior Indian diplomat has warned, as he predicted it could take up to a decade to secure the deal. YK Sinha, India’s High Commissioner to the UK, said "freer movement of people and professionals" had to form part of any future deal to ensure it was “mutually beneficial.” Speaking to Indian business leaders in London, Mr Sinha said he was “very confident” that a “winning partnership” between the two countries would emerge after Britain's departure from the EU. However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030. Thing is we will probably need more Asian immigration to fill the gaps left by the Europeans. I am not at all sure the Brexiteers had thought this one through amongst the 101 other things they hadn't either. Edited by Kermit8 (23 Nov 2017 8.38pm) goodness gracious me! We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 23 Nov 17 8.41pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Daily Telegraph - that scaremongering leftie rag

However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030.

Edited by Kermit8 (23 Nov 2017 8.38pm)

goodness gracious me!

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 17 11.37pm
Project fear? [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 17 11.37pm

Project fear?

[Tweet Link]

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Nov 17 12.17am
[Link] Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well) Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Nov 17 12.17am

[Link]

Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well)

Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Nov 17 12.42am
Originally posted by Jimenez [Link] Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well) Shock horror bank cries because some amenities will be renationalised (something that the majority of the population approve of)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Nov 17 12.42am

Originally posted by Jimenez

[Link]

Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well)

Shock horror bank cries because some amenities will be renationalised (something that the majority of the population approve of)

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 Nov 17 10.43am
Originally posted by Jimenez [Link] Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well) Bank doesn't want to pay more tax. Hold the press. 26% CT is still low, and evidence shows that it would not have any impact on corporate investment or activity. Just look at the ridiculously low level of corporate investment we've had for years, despite one of the lowest CT rates in the G20. It also hasn't led to increased wages in the economy, in fact the opposite. It's actually increased the flow of wealth to the richest and OUT of the UK, to foreign shareholders and asset owners. Investment in the economy, in skills and education and in infrastructure will have a much more pronounced positive effect than any change in tax rates.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 Nov 17 10.43am

Originally posted by Jimenez

[Link]

Project Fear (The Real Deal) (Oh & from The Grauniad as well)

Bank doesn't want to pay more tax. Hold the press.

26% CT is still low, and evidence shows that it would not have any impact on corporate investment or activity. Just look at the ridiculously low level of corporate investment we've had for years, despite one of the lowest CT rates in the G20. It also hasn't led to increased wages in the economy, in fact the opposite. It's actually increased the flow of wealth to the richest and OUT of the UK, to foreign shareholders and asset owners.

Investment in the economy, in skills and education and in infrastructure will have a much more pronounced positive effect than any change in tax rates.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 Nov 17 10.45am
David Davis looking like a right prat this morning. It seems after almost 18 months he actually hasn't done the homework he said he had. This government and it's Brexit strategy is looking more and more shambolic with each passing day. It's an embarrassment. These 58 sector analyses are really not going to be that sensitive. The EU knows that most UK industries don't want to leave the single market, they don't need Davis to tell them that. The government's lack of direction or competence is doing much more to harm our negotiating stance than proof that they've been doing research into the impact of Brexit. Woeful.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 Nov 17 10.45am

David Davis looking like a right prat this morning. It seems after almost 18 months he actually hasn't done the homework he said he had.

This government and it's Brexit strategy is looking more and more shambolic with each passing day. It's an embarrassment.

These 58 sector analyses are really not going to be that sensitive. The EU knows that most UK industries don't want to leave the single market, they don't need Davis to tell them that. The government's lack of direction or competence is doing much more to harm our negotiating stance than proof that they've been doing research into the impact of Brexit.

Woeful.

steeleye20 Croydon 28 Nov 17 11.18am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle David Davis looking like a right prat this morning. It seems after almost 18 months he actually hasn't done the homework he said he had. This government and it's Brexit strategy is looking more and more shambolic with each passing day. It's an embarrassment. These 58 sector analyses are really not going to be that sensitive. The EU knows that most UK industries don't want to leave the single market, they don't need Davis to tell them that. The government's lack of direction or competence is doing much more to harm our negotiating stance than proof that they've been doing research into the impact of Brexit. Woeful. I am fascinated and want to know what he is hiding. Obviously if its unimportant why is he 'redacting' this stuff at all? 'Contemptible' Davis, think he will wriggle successfully but a big mark against his credibility. Acute brementia.

steeleye20

Croydon 28 Nov 17 11.18am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

David Davis looking like a right prat this morning. It seems after almost 18 months he actually hasn't done the homework he said he had.

This government and it's Brexit strategy is looking more and more shambolic with each passing day. It's an embarrassment.

Woeful.

I am fascinated and want to know what he is hiding.

Obviously if its unimportant why is he 'redacting' this stuff at all?

'Contemptible' Davis, think he will wriggle successfully but a big mark against his credibility.

Acute brementia.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 Nov 17 11.31am
Originally posted by steeleye20 I am fascinated and want to know what he is hiding. Obviously if its unimportant why is he 'redacting' this stuff at all? 'Contemptible' Davis, think he will wriggle successfully but a big mark against his credibility. Acute brementia. He's now claiming that when he said 58 studies had been done in "excruciating detail" and the PM had read the summaries, that these studies never existed and whats more that he'd never said that they had. Despite having been on record as saying that they had. It's like 1984. He's a complete buffoon.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 Nov 17 11.31am

Originally posted by steeleye20

I am fascinated and want to know what he is hiding.

Obviously if its unimportant why is he 'redacting' this stuff at all?

'Contemptible' Davis, think he will wriggle successfully but a big mark against his credibility.

Acute brementia.

He's now claiming that when he said 58 studies had been done in "excruciating detail" and the PM had read the summaries, that these studies never existed and whats more that he'd never said that they had. Despite having been on record as saying that they had. It's like 1984. He's a complete buffoon.

steeleye20 Croydon 28 Nov 17 1.47pm
The EU vote thread will survive all obstacles. Unlike brexit. The IFS tell us we have another 16 years of austerity not 4 as the government say but there will still be a need for this thread thank God. If you put 'EU' somewhere in your post it should be ok. So put Prince Harry and Meghan EU at loggerheads over brexit that's a good one.

steeleye20

Croydon 28 Nov 17 1.47pm

The EU vote thread will survive all obstacles.

Unlike brexit.

The IFS tell us we have another 16 years of austerity not 4 as the government say but there will still be a need for this thread thank God.

If you put 'EU' somewhere in your post it should be ok.

So put Prince Harry and Meghan EU at loggerheads over brexit that's a good one.

.TUX. 28 Nov 17 7.26pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The EU vote thread will survive all obstacles. Unlike brexit. The IFS tell us we have another 16 years of austerity not 4 as the government say but there will still be a need for this thread thank God. If you put 'EU' somewhere in your post it should be ok. So put Prince Harry and Meghan EU at loggerheads over brexit that's a good one. So Brexit > Global Financial Crisis? Well i never. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

28 Nov 17 7.26pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The EU vote thread will survive all obstacles.

Unlike brexit.

The IFS tell us we have another 16 years of austerity not 4 as the government say but there will still be a need for this thread thank God.

If you put 'EU' somewhere in your post it should be ok.

So put Prince Harry and Meghan EU at loggerheads over brexit that's a good one.

So Brexit > Global Financial Crisis?

Well i never.

Buy Litecoin.

europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 12.47am
Originally posted by .TUX. So Brexit > Global Financial Crisis? Well i never. Well, to start with it looks like the UK paying €55 billion to the EU, so more like a national crisis. I thought Johnson said the EU wouldn't get a penny? U-turn after u-turn. You brexiteers must be loving handing over all that cash. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.49am)

europalace

Europe 29 Nov 17 12.47am

Originally posted by .TUX.

So Brexit > Global Financial Crisis?

Well i never.

Well, to start with it looks like the UK paying €55 billion to the EU, so more like a national crisis. I thought Johnson said the EU wouldn't get a penny? U-turn after u-turn. You brexiteers must be loving handing over all that cash.

Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.49am)

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