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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Let's see how much we spend on a right back. Your platitudes bore me. We sold a player purely for money so we are a selling club and we will be the worse for it defensively. Your broken record project fear hyperbole bores me. What else should we sell a player for? Stock options? A packet of skips and a box of milk tray? Yes we sold for money, and do you know why? Because we need money. Its simple isnt it, you dont need a degree in economics and capitalism to understand what went on here. You dont become a selling club because you sell one player! Utter tripe, as usual. That is absolute nonsense. Parish and co have been s***e at selling players in fact with the exception of Bolasie which was a great bit of business. Please google "selling club" to learn what the phrase actually means. We sell far too few players to qualify I am afraid. If we are a selling club how do you explain us having the best attacker outside the top 4 on our books, head and shoulders above any attacking players at any team around us? You cant, because your argument is the usual tripe.
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Our wingers won’t like him If Wilf has him on toast next season you can find me face down in the Thames with JD in my veins
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Your broken record project fear hyperbole bores me. What else should we sell a player for? Stock options? A packet of skips and a box of milk tray? Yes we sold for money, and do you know why? Because we need money. Its simple isnt it, you dont need a degree in economics and capitalism to understand what went on here. You dont become a selling club because you sell one player! Utter tripe, as usual. That is absolute nonsense. Parish and co have been s***e at selling players in fact with the exception of Bolasie which was a great bit of business. Please google "selling club" to learn what the phrase actually means. We sell far too few players to qualify I am afraid. If we are a selling club how do you explain us having the best attacker outside the top 4 on our books, head and shoulders above any attacking players at any team around us? You cant, because your argument is the usual tripe. We won’t have the best attack out of the top 4 if Wilf goes, we got by last season by the skin of our teeth again, don’t let that finishing position fool you. We most probably do need the money, but the fact we are paying Tekkers over the odds grinds my gears...
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
Great bit of business. Would of course have loved him to stay but he is an asset we can’t afford not to cash in on with our stadium plans etc. If he didn’t follow up next season with as good a performance his value would be adversely affected (plenty of young players who sparkled early and faded out), Heaven forbid if he suffered a career ending injury we’d have lost 50 million. Right time to sell. Wish him all the best and hope he continues to improve and fulfil his potential. Thank you Aaron. Come back in a couple of years for £10 million please. Totally agree. Good business for both clubs.Gutted he is leaving but too much money for us to turn down and a right back is not the hardest position to resolve. I hope he gets to the very top as it would be great to see another youth product reach their full potential. Hopefully this will mean we can play serious hardball for Zaha as he will be much harder to replace. Good luck AWB, it has been brief but you are a player who will always be remembered. Best fullback I have seen at the club since Sansom and when Ashley Cole came on loan.
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
We won’t have the best attack out of the top 4 if Wilf goes, we got by last season by the skin of our teeth again, don’t let that finishing position fool you. We most probably do need the money, but the fact we are paying Tekkers over the odds grinds my gears... I said best attacker, Gary, not best attack. Our strikers are a joke.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Your broken record project fear hyperbole bores me. What else should we sell a player for? Stock options? A packet of skips and a box of milk tray? Yes we sold for money, and do you know why? Because we need money. Its simple isnt it, you dont need a degree in economics and capitalism to understand what went on here. You dont become a selling club because you sell one player! Utter tripe, as usual. That is absolute nonsense. Parish and co have been s***e at selling players in fact with the exception of Bolasie which was a great bit of business. Please google "selling club" to learn what the phrase actually means. We sell far too few players to qualify I am afraid. If we are a selling club how do you explain us having the best attacker outside the top 4 on our books, head and shoulders above any attacking players at any team around us? You cant, because your argument is the usual tripe. Please google 'I will be sorry when we don't spend hardly any of the money on players because it is going in the shareholders pockets'.
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Originally posted by Noz
80 odd pages of arguing about whether this is a good deal for us or not. I know Talksport is not exactly the Mecca of reliable news stories but they had Mel Morris on there talking about the Frank Lampard issue, with him being given permission to talk to Chelsea, which, ostensibly, for a lot of Derby fans seems to be a defeatist move by the club. Mel Morris said that, fans and those people outside the club have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. What might seem like a suicidal move from a fans perspective, might well be deemed a very positive move by those involved in the actual negotiation, I’m going to take an over arching generalisation here, but I’m guessing not many of you were involved in the Crystal Palace side of negotiations for this particular transfer. Have faith in those that were involved, because surprisingly they have more experience in professional premier league transfer negotiations than we do. Edited by Noz (26 Jun 2019 7.26pm) Love the sentiment, although I'm not sure our boards' historic scattergun approach/ high wages for average players lends credibility to having blind faith in their ability to secure favourable/successful transfers. More likely in this instance they've cashed in on a ridiculous profit on an asset. It'll be more telling to see what they do with the money.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Nice attempt to cover your mistake. The conditions of the extra 5 million are as yet unknown. Not sure why you think me responding to you saying we don’t even get the £50m upfront and me saying instalments are common is me covering my mistake, but given the absolute nonsense you’ve posted for the last few weeks, nothing surprises me.
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Originally posted by Fatherken
my money has it , that when he goes to Man U , he will be in the next England squad and at the end of the season he will be young player of the year . that what happens with larger teams than ours Think others on here have a good point that it will all depend how he is utilised at Man Ure. Certainly has great defensive attributes but offensively not quite as good yet. However has played as a winger and if he matures in this dept as you say could be a huge star for the future. Hopefully as part of the deal we have put in place a sell on clause. In relation to Wilf hoping for him to stay, as you do worry we could do a Swansea here and drop like a stone.
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Originally posted by Fatherken
my money has it , that when he goes to Man U , he will be in the next England squad and at the end of the season he will be young player of the year . that what happens with larger teams than ours Either that or, he will make a bad mistake in his first match, be put on the bench as punishment, lose his confidence and end up wishing he was back a good old, forgiving, SP
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Originally posted by becky
Either that or, he will make a bad mistake in his first match, be put on the bench as punishment, lose his confidence and end up wishing he was back a good old, forgiving, SP I don’t think that’s Solskjaer’s style however long he’ll be there for. Might be a Wilf situation in that he’s signed by a manager who leaves a few months into the season and a new manager comes in who hasn't signed him and benches him. Will miss his efforts on the pitch but not his post match interviews.
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I don't think anybody expected Ambrose, Murray, Gayle or Jedinak to go on and prove themselves as £100m players, particularly as three of them were sold into the Championship and Murray was already in his 30s. Zaha is the only one who is really comparable but he has mitigation for failing at United as he was the single biggest victim of Fergie retiring. Don't think there's any doubt that, barring horrific injury, AWB will go on to have the sort of career that most of that list could only have dreamed of. I was trying to think of the last time we sold someone who went on to achieve something. Ian Wright maybe? I wish him the best of luck. £50M for a right back who's played 1 full season is a good peice of business. I'll miss his flying last ditch tackles. Although, I did have a few unpopular doubts about his ability. No doubt a really good player, but he seemed to give the ball away a lot, his positioning had a lot to work on but he got away with it because of his pace. I'd also question why he was so often found in the position where he had to make a last ditch tackle. When Wilf left, there was a reluctance to let him go, but it seemed there was also some pride that we produced a lad who was expected to go on an achieve great things at Man U. The reaction today shows how far we've come and how far they have fallen. Let's wait and see how he's replaced.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I couldn't have put it better myself, completely agree. Hrolf never, ever will. Ever.
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