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Originally posted by europalace
Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.49am) We pay that every year in interest payments to the (privately owned) BoE so it's hardly a bloody ''national crisis''.
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Originally posted by .TUX.
We pay that every year in interest payments to the (privately owned) BoE so it's hardly a bloody ''national crisis''. privately owned? Strange that government finances consolidate out such loans and interest payments. That would suggest it's publicly owned.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I am beyond angry at the moment. 50 Billion Euros? To this corrupt undemocratic group...just to leave it? They only deserve my middle finger. This is what happens when you have a wimp and a remainer as PM. All the fifth columnists will love this. The country democratically elected May to take us through Brexit. You reap what you sow.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I am beyond angry at the moment. 50 Billion Euros? To this corrupt undemocratic group...just to leave it? They only deserve my middle finger. This is what happens when you have a wimp and a remainer as PM. All the fifth columnists will love this. Well, this is in no way the final figure, that will be much, much more but that of course won't be revealed for years to come when it's too late to do anything about it. Remember the €20 billion outrage? Now €55 billion and no doubt much more to be handed over and that's without the €billions each year lost from business already moving to the Eurozone. This is nothing to do with 'remainers', it's all to do with the lies that Farage and Johnson fed people like yourself and you gulped it all down. They won't care, their multi-millionaires already, non of this will affect them.In fact they will make even more from the misery caused to millions of UK citizens when they no doubt write their books and give 'independent' after dinner talks etc. The cold light of day has finally begun to arrive. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 9.55am)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The country democratically elected May to take us through Brexit. You reap what you sow. I didn't realise that it was a presidential election
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I didn't realise that it was a presidential election Strong and stable?
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Originally posted by europalace
Well, this is in no way the final figure, that will be much, much more but that of course won't be revealed for years to come when it's too late to do anything about it. Remember the €20 billion outrage? Now €55 billion and no doubt much more to be handed over and that's without the €billions each year lost from business already moving to the Eurozone. This is nothing to do with 'remainers', it's all to do with the lies that Farage and Johnson fed people like yourself and you gulped it all down. They won't care, their multi-millionaires already, non of this will affect them.In fact they will make even more from the misery caused to millions of UK citizens when they no doubt write their books and give 'independent' after dinner talks etc. The cold light of day has finally begun to arrive. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 9.55am) Not to mention the Russian subversion of our democracy and the effort of ministers to subvert parliament at every turn. We're giving away far more power than we're taking back. Edited by CambridgeEagle (29 Nov 2017 10.11am)
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I didn't realise that it was a presidential election Were you living under a rock during the GE campaign?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I am beyond angry at the moment. 50 Billion Euros? To this corrupt undemocratic group...just to leave it? They only deserve my middle finger. This is what happens when you have a wimp and a remainer as PM. All the fifth columnists will love this. It was always going to be 50. Should've agreed it earlier. The issue I have is that this and a couple of other matters are agreed and filed away from reach before we move onto what we're really waiting for and what the EU was originally set up for. Trade. Well publicly anyway. Then there's open immigration. Something it wasn't set up for, publicly. Hopefully because we've dragged it out it'll help with the negotiations that'll really attract interest.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The country democratically elected May to take us through Brexit. You reap what you sow. It was either that or an inadequate Marxist. A Trump or Clinton choice.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It was always going to be 50. Should've agreed it earlier. The issue I have is that this and a couple of other matters are agreed and filed away from reach before we move onto what we're really waiting for and what the EU was originally set up for. Trade. Well publicly anyway. Then there's open immigration. Something it wasn't set up for, publicly. Hopefully because we've dragged it out it'll help with the negotiations that'll really attract interest. I don't agree with that. Why exactly are we going along with 50? In fact I prefer a no deal to this.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't agree with that. Why exactly are we going along with 50? In fact I prefer a no deal to this.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't agree with that. Why exactly are we going along with 50? In fact I prefer a no deal to this. It'll be 50 spread over several years and the trade agreements and, if done fairly and successfully, should dwarf this figure over many many years compared to no deal, which is why we voted leave. For the longer term. Well a lot of us did. It's not this I'm concerned about but I am that it's decided and filed away without being part of other aspects of our future relationships. That's how the real world works. It's like we're the school children being allowed a short say and to then shut up and accept whatever, regardless of fairness. If they continue to try and stitch us up then I might agree to walk away.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
We are already honouring our commitments and obligations to the EU as members. This is a bribe as the UK is desperate for a bespoke trade agreement mirroring the single market. Its far less than the UK will pay if we do leave and would continue to pay for many years after. But the main thing IMO that should bring a stop to brexit, is that the aims of brexit as put forward by leave at the EU vote in 2016 are not going to be achieved. Whatever happened to the 350 millions a week for the NHS? Now in a brown envelope for Mr.Junckers and plenty more to follow.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
It is paying back our commitments but those commitments aren’t clear and transparent, the best analogy I’ve heard is that we have all been out to dinner and we know we have had the steak dinner which are prepared to pay for , we also happy to pay for the wine but we are not sure how much of the wine we have had and in any case we wanted a nice bottle of wine while the Romania’s only wanted the house wine. We also promised to chip in a bit extra for the meal next month because we know some of the others guest are a little bit skint and they have a mate who can do our garden for us but so now a few others are going to have to stump up a bit extra.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It'll be 50 spread over several years and the trade agreements and, if done fairly and successfully, should dwarf this figure over many many years compared to no deal, which is why we voted leave. For the longer term. Well a lot of us did. It's not this I'm concerned about but I am that it's decided and filed away without being part of other aspects of our future relationships. That's how the real world works. It's like we're the school children being allowed a short say and to then shut up and accept whatever, regardless of fairness. If they continue to try and stitch us up then I might agree to walk away.
Can you imagine voting in a general election where no party says anything about what it plans to do should it win that election? Only to tell it's voters once it's in power? That's what you have done.
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Originally posted by europalace
Can you imagine voting in a general election where no party says anything about what it plans to do should it win that election? Only to tell it's voters once it's in power? That's what you have done. We know what we're going to be negotiating so we're not as in the dark as you think, and no, it's nothing like a general election. Paul Mason was in favour of leave but under a labour government. You've just done okay because of the EU privileges and think it applies to 60 million of us too. You might live to see your offspring want to return to Britain. Remember me saying it to you now.
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Originally posted by europalace
Can you imagine voting in a general election where no party says anything about what it plans to do should it win that election? Only to tell it's voters once it's in power? That's what you have done. Get it into your skull that I'm very happy to leave like plenty of others. Nothing you say makes the blind bit of difference and essentially you're just a bitter person who buggered off. So essentially what you think doesn't matter here. Make your voice heard in the EU skeptic country you amusingly chose to move to. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 11.29am)
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