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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 11.36am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Get it into your skull that I'm very happy to leave like plenty of others. Nothing you say makes the blind bit of difference and essentially you're just a bitter person who buggered off. So essentially what you think doesn't matter here. Make your voice heard in the EU skeptic country you amusingly chose to move to. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 11.29am) Maybe you've been swayed by Russian bots. In other news Eurozone confidence at 17 year high and growth in Q4 now expected to beat initial forecasts. UK very much looking like the sick man of Europe. Austerity and Brexit mishandling combining to erode living standards and leave us trailing in the dust of the world economy. Sad.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 29 Nov 17 11.36am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Get it into your skull that I'm very happy to leave like plenty of others.

Nothing you say makes the blind bit of difference and essentially you're just a bitter person who buggered off.

So essentially what you think doesn't matter here. Make your voice heard in the EU skeptic country you amusingly chose to move to.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 11.29am)

Maybe you've been swayed by Russian bots.

In other news Eurozone confidence at 17 year high and growth in Q4 now expected to beat initial forecasts.

UK very much looking like the sick man of Europe.

Austerity and Brexit mishandling combining to erode living standards and leave us trailing in the dust of the world economy. Sad.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 11.54am
Originally posted by steeleye20 We are already honouring our commitments and obligations to the EU as members. This is a bribe as the UK is desperate for a bespoke trade agreement mirroring the single market. Its far less than the UK will pay if we do leave and would continue to pay for many years after. But the main thing IMO that should bring a stop to brexit, is that the aims of brexit as put forward by leave at the EU vote in 2016 are not going to be achieved. Whatever happened to the 350 millions a week for the NHS? Now in a brown envelope for Mr.Junckers and plenty more to follow. Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's good value, but it was always going to be necessary if we are going to leave with any sort of appropriate deal. Government incompetence means a good deal still unlikely, even if we do end up continuing to meet obligations without getting any of the benefits for many years to come.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 29 Nov 17 11.54am

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are already honouring our commitments and obligations to the EU as members.

This is a bribe as the UK is desperate for a bespoke trade agreement mirroring the single market.

Its far less than the UK will pay if we do leave and would continue to pay for many years after.

But the main thing IMO that should bring a stop to brexit, is that the aims of brexit as put forward by leave at the EU vote in 2016 are not going to be achieved.

Whatever happened to the 350 millions a week for the NHS?

Now in a brown envelope for Mr.Junckers and plenty more to follow.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's good value, but it was always going to be necessary if we are going to leave with any sort of appropriate deal.

Government incompetence means a good deal still unlikely, even if we do end up continuing to meet obligations without getting any of the benefits for many years to come.

europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 11.58am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Get it into your skull that I'm very happy to leave like plenty of others. Nothing you say makes the blind bit of difference and essentially you're just a bitter person who buggered off. So essentially what you think doesn't matter here. Make your voice heard in the EU skeptic country you amusingly chose to move to. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 11.29am) Nothing bitter here at all. I'm just sad to see many of my friends not knowing what's going to happen to their country and the precarious future of their teenage children. The only 'bitter' people seem to be those who voted to leave and now can't stomach the reality. The honeymoon period of the vote to leave is long gone. As regards to 'buggering off', well I took advantage of being a European citizen, a privilege everyone in the UK still has. With regards to the country I now live in, who knows what it will be like in 5-10 years time. We'll be long gone by then. That's the beauty of the EU, you can move around at will and pick where you want to live. Get bored or want a change, move again. We've done it with a young family, so that old chestnut isn't any excuse at all. It all depends if you've got a closed mind or an open mind.

europalace

Europe 29 Nov 17 11.58am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Get it into your skull that I'm very happy to leave like plenty of others.

Nothing you say makes the blind bit of difference and essentially you're just a bitter person who buggered off.

So essentially what you think doesn't matter here. Make your voice heard in the EU skeptic country you amusingly chose to move to.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 11.29am)

Nothing bitter here at all. I'm just sad to see many of my friends not knowing what's going to happen to their country and the precarious future of their teenage children. The only 'bitter' people seem to be those who voted to leave and now can't stomach the reality. The honeymoon period of the vote to leave is long gone.

As regards to 'buggering off', well I took advantage of being a European citizen, a privilege everyone in the UK still has.

With regards to the country I now live in, who knows what it will be like in 5-10 years time. We'll be long gone by then. That's the beauty of the EU, you can move around at will and pick where you want to live. Get bored or want a change, move again. We've done it with a young family, so that old chestnut isn't any excuse at all. It all depends if you've got a closed mind or an open mind.

Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 12.00pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Maybe you've been swayed by Russian bots. In other news Eurozone confidence at 17 year high and growth in Q4 now expected to beat initial forecasts. UK very much looking like the sick man of Europe. Austerity and Brexit mishandling combining to erode living standards and leave us trailing in the dust of the world economy. Sad. I've been anti EU since the nineties.....bots indeed. Still listening to excuses for votes that go against your politics it appears. The EU is a disaster zone but please please move to it if you believe the future is there. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 12.00pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Nov 17 12.00pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Maybe you've been swayed by Russian bots.

In other news Eurozone confidence at 17 year high and growth in Q4 now expected to beat initial forecasts.

UK very much looking like the sick man of Europe.

Austerity and Brexit mishandling combining to erode living standards and leave us trailing in the dust of the world economy. Sad.

I've been anti EU since the nineties.....bots indeed. Still listening to excuses for votes that go against your politics it appears.

The EU is a disaster zone but please please move to it if you believe the future is there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 12.00pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 12.02pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman You've just done okay because of the EU privileges and think it applies to 60 million of us too. You might live to see your offspring want to return to Britain. Remember me saying it to you now. What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue. My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it.

europalace

Europe 29 Nov 17 12.02pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You've just done okay because of the EU privileges and think it applies to 60 million of us too. You might live to see your offspring want to return to Britain. Remember me saying it to you now.

What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue.

My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.11pm
Originally posted by europalace What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue. My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it. That's right. We choose whether or not to move freely and many of us don't want complete freedom of movement. You're catching on, almost. If you and your kids don't like the UK or us, why bother coming back here for visits at all? Where you are is so wonderful makes it even more strange, even though each place bores you so much that after 5 years you have to find another place to stop. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.11pm

Originally posted by europalace

What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue.

My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it.

That's right. We choose whether or not to move freely and many of us don't want complete freedom of movement. You're catching on, almost.

If you and your kids don't like the UK or us, why bother coming back here for visits at all? Where you are is so wonderful makes it even more strange, even though each place bores you so much that after 5 years you have to find another place to stop.

COYP

Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.15pm
Originally posted by europalace Nothing bitter here at all. I'm just sad to see many of my friends not knowing what's going to happen to their country and the precarious future of their teenage children. The only 'bitter' people seem to be those who voted to leave and now can't stomach the reality. The honeymoon period of the vote to leave is long gone. As regards to 'buggering off', well I took advantage of being a European citizen, a privilege everyone in the UK still has. With regards to the country I now live in, who knows what it will be like in 5-10 years time. We'll be long gone by then. That's the beauty of the EU, you can move around at will and pick where you want to live. Get bored or want a change, move again. We've done it with a young family, so that old chestnut isn't any excuse at all. It all depends if you've got a closed mind or an open mind. Before you drown in your own confusion in your short term preferred place to live, can you explain what this means? People who voted leave are bitter because they cannot stomach reality? I haven't heard anyone resembling this sh1t you've imagined. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.15pm

Originally posted by europalace

Nothing bitter here at all. I'm just sad to see many of my friends not knowing what's going to happen to their country and the precarious future of their teenage children. The only 'bitter' people seem to be those who voted to leave and now can't stomach the reality. The honeymoon period of the vote to leave is long gone.

As regards to 'buggering off', well I took advantage of being a European citizen, a privilege everyone in the UK still has.

Before you drown in your own confusion in your short term preferred place to live, can you explain what this means? People who voted leave are bitter because they cannot stomach reality? I haven't heard anyone resembling this sh1t you've imagined.

COYP

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 12.21pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've been anti EU since the nineties.....bots indeed. Still listening to excuses for votes that go against your politics it appears. The EU is a disaster zone but please please move to it if you believe the future is there. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 12.00pm) Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light. The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 29 Nov 17 12.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've been anti EU since the nineties.....bots indeed. Still listening to excuses for votes that go against your politics it appears.

The EU is a disaster zone but please please move to it if you believe the future is there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 12.00pm)

Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light.

The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.29pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light. The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside. Why does London feel like a different country? France has its problems, hidden from view of tourists and visitors. Scandinavian countries are in a good state because of accepted high levels of taxation, lower debt and being smaller so can administer that set up successfully. It's their ethos whereas ours is self interest and how much better off I will be after a general election. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2017 12.29pm) COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.29pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light.

The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside.

Why does London feel like a different country?

France has its problems, hidden from view of tourists and visitors.

Scandinavian countries are in a good state because of accepted high levels of taxation, lower debt and being smaller so can administer that set up successfully. It's their ethos whereas ours is self interest and how much better off I will be after a general election.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2017 12.29pm)

COYP

europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 12.44pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Before you drown in your own confusion in your short term preferred place to live, can you explain what this means? People who voted leave are bitter because they cannot stomach reality? I haven't heard anyone resembling this sh1t you've imagined. No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave. With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year. I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm)

europalace

Europe 29 Nov 17 12.44pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave.

With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year.

I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years.

Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm)

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 29 Nov 17 12.51pm
Originally posted by europalace No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave. With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year. I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm) At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU. Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 29 Nov 17 12.51pm

Originally posted by europalace

With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year.

I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years.

Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm)

At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU.

Pro USA & Israel

Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 1.03pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light. The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside. Typical. 'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse. At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Nov 17 1.03pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Just reading the evidence that's gradually coming to light.

Typical.

'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse.

At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by Jimenez At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU. Clearly you American experience has diluted your geographical knowledge, no surprise there at all. However, it is in the ASEAN trade bloc because they also realise that working together in a bloc makes much more economic sense. By the way, why are there loads of creepy British and Australian guys here? All seem to be in their 50s/60s, balding and with ugly local women? We spoke to some of the locals and they said it was a huge problem for local women who are constantly pestered by these guys. They explained the only women who would even consider going with them do it for money. What a sad mess they've created in a lovely country.

europalace

Europe 29 Nov 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU.

Clearly you American experience has diluted your geographical knowledge, no surprise there at all. However, it is in the ASEAN trade bloc because they also realise that working together in a bloc makes much more economic sense.

By the way, why are there loads of creepy British and Australian guys here? All seem to be in their 50s/60s, balding and with ugly local women? We spoke to some of the locals and they said it was a huge problem for local women who are constantly pestered by these guys. They explained the only women who would even consider going with them do it for money. What a sad mess they've created in a lovely country.

Kermit8 Hevon 29 Nov 17 1.07pm
Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 29 Nov 17 1.07pm

Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 1.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Typical. 'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse. At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there. You don't understand economics. There are indeed many lovely parts of the EU. Having a mortgage, family life, friends, season ticket etc. in London does make moving away much more difficult, however if I was ever to move from London it would not be to anywhere else in the UK. Just look at wages, house prices, infrastructure, access to culture, job opportunities, cuisine, diversity, development, retail opportunities, political outlook, much higher social mobility to name but a few aspects that make London a markedly different place from the rest of the UK and why to me it feels often like a separate state.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 29 Nov 17 1.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Typical.

'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse.

At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there.

You don't understand economics.

There are indeed many lovely parts of the EU. Having a mortgage, family life, friends, season ticket etc. in London does make moving away much more difficult, however if I was ever to move from London it would not be to anywhere else in the UK.

Just look at wages, house prices, infrastructure, access to culture, job opportunities, cuisine, diversity, development, retail opportunities, political outlook, much higher social mobility to name but a few aspects that make London a markedly different place from the rest of the UK and why to me it feels often like a separate state.

Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 1.13pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind. We have had nothing but mass criticism of leave since the vote. The entire establishment was remain and they have done nothing but continually attack since the vote. If another vote started I'm pretty sure the 'leave' campaign would get them back. But this question is done for, by rights, over a generation......just like we had to wait for a vote on the EU again after 74. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Nov 17 1.13pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind.

We have had nothing but mass criticism of leave since the vote.

The entire establishment was remain and they have done nothing but continually attack since the vote.

If another vote started I'm pretty sure the 'leave' campaign would get them back. But this question is done for, by rights, over a generation......just like we had to wait for a vote on the EU again after 74.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 1.16pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle You don't understand economics. There are indeed many lovely parts of the EU. Having a mortgage, family life, friends, season ticket etc. in London does make moving away much more difficult, however if I was ever to move from London it would not be to anywhere else in the UK. Just look at wages, house prices, infrastructure, access to culture, job opportunities, cuisine, diversity, development, retail opportunities, political outlook, much higher social mobility to name but a few aspects that make London a markedly different place from the rest of the UK and why to me it feels often like a separate state. I have principles I try to live by. You have excuses for not living yours....economic or not. London is the capital of England. I don't give a damn what you feel about it. Go live somewhere else in the EU. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Nov 17 1.16pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You don't understand economics.

I have principles I try to live by.

You have excuses for not living yours....economic or not.

London is the capital of England. I don't give a damn what you feel about it. Go live somewhere else in the EU.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Kermit8 Hevon 29 Nov 17 1.21pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays We have had nothing but mass criticism of leave since the vote. The entire establishment was remain and they have done nothing but continually attack since the vote. If another vote started I'm pretty sure the 'leave' campaign would get them back. But this question is done for, by rights, over a generation......just like we had to wait for a vote on the EU again after 74. That is just not true. The major public voices for Leave are establishment as are the group of money men donors behind the campaign. Then you have a quarter of MPs also for Brexit. It reeks of establishment. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 29 Nov 17 1.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We have had nothing but mass criticism of leave since the vote.

The entire establishment was remain and they have done nothing but continually attack since the vote.

That is just not true. The major public voices for Leave are establishment as are the group of money men donors behind the campaign. Then you have a quarter of MPs also for Brexit. It reeks of establishment.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 1.22pm
Originally posted by europalace No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave. With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year. I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm) What a crock of shyte. You peddle this kind of cr@p to engineer some sort of dispute with people who really don't give a sh1t what you do and when they speak to immigrants here, they think,'well done and good luck to them.' It's the fact it's getting out of control, we're abandoning our own young people's futures and possibly the idea that anybody's offspring who wants to work in a particular sector should have to move to the other side of Europe when they shouldn't have to under a United States of Europe also puts them off. Also applies to housing here etc. But that won't stop you clinging onto this belief people dislike your globe trotting success when actually nobody cares. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Nov 17 1.22pm

Originally posted by europalace

No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave.

With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year.

I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years.

Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm)

What a crock of shyte. You peddle this kind of cr@p to engineer some sort of dispute with people who really don't give a sh1t what you do and when they speak to immigrants here, they think,'well done and good luck to them.'

It's the fact it's getting out of control, we're abandoning our own young people's futures and possibly the idea that anybody's offspring who wants to work in a particular sector should have to move to the other side of Europe when they shouldn't have to under a United States of Europe also puts them off. Also applies to housing here etc.

But that won't stop you clinging onto this belief people dislike your globe trotting success when actually nobody cares.

COYP

steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 17 2.01pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind. How many of the leavers said 'Dunno' and 'what's the EU?' Is it near Thailand?

steeleye20

Croydon 29 Nov 17 2.01pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind.

How many of the leavers said 'Dunno' and 'what's the EU?'

Is it near Thailand?

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