You've gotta say though that as a policy of war it's genius. Create a low-mortality virus which crashes your own economy, give your enemy many weeks to prepare for it with their superior medical facilities, but bank on the bluster and laziness of their leaders to do nothing until it's too late.

Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Caesar...they never thought up that one!

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Well one would hope they are working towards that there will be no deal. IMO there will be some sort of deal but a lot depends on Barnier stopping being so obstinate

Unfortunately it is nearer 220 a day now, this includes those that are arriving daily at airports with no documents. Is our foreign policy to blame? To an extent yes, but I can’t remember us dropping bombs on any West African country, we just provide foreign aid. Have we bombed Iran? I don’t think so, you will be surprised how many Iranians have, apparently converted to Christianity. Many of these arrivals are economic migrants ( believe me I know) and unfortunately the genuine refugees are caught in the same net. What I have said before is that, if you are a genuine refugee you do not travel the width of Europe, entering several countries before you claim asylum.

My father fought in WW2 and my grandfather in WW1, both in some of the most bloody conflicts. Neither of them shared your view, it is anathema to why they fought.

My grandfather didn’t make it back from Italy, leaving a widow and 5 children under 14. Not sure he would be too impressed that his sacrifice has led to this but as I never got the chance to
Meet him, I wouldn’t know

I've just decided that now we've reached the stage of acceptable discourse being 'let's shoot some poor people and let them drown', all you can do is try and make a joke of it. And drink, and cry when you see where this is all leading, but mainly laugh, because otherwise you'll end up wanting to jump on one of these boats yourself. I wander if these people smugglers do return tickets? Do I have to wear a mask on the dinghy, and will they guarantee the appropriate 1m social distancing for passengers? If not I'm giving them bad feedback on tripadvisor.

See. Hahaha. Funny. They're dying in the sea and we could save them, how funny, hahahahaha. But don't worry, they aren't refugees, those people whose lungs are filling with water, they were economic migrants, so it's ok. Let them drown. Hahahaha.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4