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Mapletree Croydon 09 Nov 16 12.29pm
This is a bad day for nasty, petty point scoring. To many of us the US news is massively overshadowed by local news. Sadly the Press took a while to get that. Some people would be better using their fantastic wit and ability to determine what is 'good' for others by focusing on emotional intelligence on a day that will go down in history as (another) plain awful day for Croydon. Especially for those of us that live towards the East.

Mapletree

Croydon 09 Nov 16 12.29pm

This is a bad day for nasty, petty point scoring.

To many of us the US news is massively overshadowed by local news. Sadly the Press took a while to get that.

Some people would be better using their fantastic wit and ability to determine what is 'good' for others by focusing on emotional intelligence on a day that will go down in history as (another) plain awful day for Croydon. Especially for those of us that live towards the East.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.30pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! This is exactly the kind of patronising lefty nonsense that just got rejected by the American people. Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.30pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

This is exactly the kind of patronising lefty nonsense that just got rejected by the American people.

Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 12.31pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending. We knew what you meant, love. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 12.31pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending.

We knew what you meant, love.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.32pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt We knew what you meant, love. Lily is that you? Attachment: mindreader.jpeg (33.31Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.32pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

We knew what you meant, love.

Lily is that you?

Attachment: mindreader.jpeg (33.31Kb)

Michaelawt85 Bexley 09 Nov 16 12.33pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Sorry Jamie. I'll take a card for upsetting Michaela previously without realising I had. Fairs fair. I have shown in pms and general chat on here I like a joke but that was a bit low. No one needs to start going down the road of carding people. Not suggested that. Anyway back to the politics. It's the mail but this is an interesting article regarding some of the wider changes to laws in various states [Link] When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Michaelawt85

Bexley 09 Nov 16 12.33pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Sorry Jamie.

I'll take a card for upsetting Michaela previously without realising I had.

Fairs fair.

I have shown in pms and general chat on here I like a joke but that was a bit low. No one needs to start going down the road of carding people. Not suggested that. Anyway back to the politics.

It's the mail but this is an interesting article regarding some of the wider changes to laws in various states

[Link]

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

We are goin up! Coulsdon 09 Nov 16 12.33pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending. Ah OK. So you were sh*t-stirring. Jolly good, just checking. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We are goin up!

Coulsdon 09 Nov 16 12.33pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was but said it could be rightly or wrongly construed as condescending.

Ah OK. So you were sh*t-stirring. Jolly good, just checking.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.35pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! Ah OK. So you were sh*t-stirring. Jolly good, just checking. Wasn't but it appears you are.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 Nov 16 12.35pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Ah OK. So you were sh*t-stirring. Jolly good, just checking.

Wasn't but it appears you are.

Hrolf The Ganger 09 Nov 16 12.40pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Well yes, but the problem generally is that the intelligent and educated tend to forget that the rest of the population also have a vote - and there are large sections of the population who aren't notated for From an outsider perspective, I'm not sure he was the right choice. Little focus on policy, lots on rhetoric, but he seems to have struck a cord with enough of the people in the swing states to construct a victory out of what appears to be very little, but continually repeated phrases. Now he has to deliver, the people have spoken, and he won't be the first unpopular president in the US with the opposition. Of course he may not take office, given the issues coming up from the Trump University and an child sex offence issue coming in December. But he won. If you want a democracy, that sometimes means admitting that you have to accept that its not about 'just you', but everyone. It doesn't mean he's right, or that his supporters are somehow right, but that he has sufficient support to represent the US. You can't have democracy, and then decide you don't like the outcome of the election because 'the other guy' won. The constitution, the senate and house of representatives place quite a lot of power over the capacity of the president to implement his personal agenda - and really the Democrats should have been more concerned about these two houses, than the presidency. Its a poor system, it just happens to be better than the alternatives. But now the Republicans have a virtual free hand. They have the Senete, the President and house, and potentially the supreme court. So there really are no excuses to hide behind if they cannot deliver on their stated goals and policy, they have the full political weight of the US behind them. Quite so. It does make me wonder where US politics will be if they fail. Given that, Donald better build that wall or the US will probably be Democrat for ever more and at the mercy of the minority vote.

Hrolf The Ganger

09 Nov 16 12.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well yes, but the problem generally is that the intelligent and educated tend to forget that the rest of the population also have a vote - and there are large sections of the population who aren't notated for

From an outsider perspective, I'm not sure he was the right choice. Little focus on policy, lots on rhetoric, but he seems to have struck a cord with enough of the people in the swing states to construct a victory out of what appears to be very little, but continually repeated phrases.

Now he has to deliver, the people have spoken, and he won't be the first unpopular president in the US with the opposition.

Of course he may not take office, given the issues coming up from the Trump University and an child sex offence issue coming in December.

But he won. If you want a democracy, that sometimes means admitting that you have to accept that its not about 'just you', but everyone. It doesn't mean he's right, or that his supporters are somehow right, but that he has sufficient support to represent the US.

You can't have democracy, and then decide you don't like the outcome of the election because 'the other guy' won.

The constitution, the senate and house of representatives place quite a lot of power over the capacity of the president to implement his personal agenda - and really the Democrats should have been more concerned about these two houses, than the presidency.

Its a poor system, it just happens to be better than the alternatives.

But now the Republicans have a virtual free hand. They have the Senete, the President and house, and potentially the supreme court.

So there really are no excuses to hide behind if they cannot deliver on their stated goals and policy, they have the full political weight of the US behind them.

Quite so.

It does make me wonder where US politics will be if they fail.

Given that, Donald better build that wall or the US will probably be Democrat for ever more and at the mercy of the minority vote.

Sportyteacher London 09 Nov 16 12.43pm
Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter: [Link]

Sportyteacher

London 09 Nov 16 12.43pm

Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter:

[Link]

Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Nov 16 12.43pm
Originally posted by deltboy Lib/Left idiots beaten yet again. happy days are here again ... Now just free the Ashers. Citizens of a country voting for their own situations before elsewhere again more like. Good heavens, whatever next? And those selfish 29% Hispanics feeling the same. And black America not even voting so not really feeling the current love. Shame I didn't get on at 5/1. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 09 Nov 16 12.43pm

Originally posted by deltboy

Lib/Left idiots beaten yet again. happy days are here again ... Now just free the Ashers.

Citizens of a country voting for their own situations before elsewhere again more like. Good heavens, whatever next?

And those selfish 29% Hispanics feeling the same. And black America not even voting so not really feeling the current love.

Shame I didn't get on at 5/1.

COYP

Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Nov 16 12.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Quite so. It does make me wonder where US politics will be if they fail. Given that, Donald better build that wall or the US will probably be Democrat for ever more and at the mercy of the minority vote. Constitutionally he can't build a wall, or can he? COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 09 Nov 16 12.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Quite so.

It does make me wonder where US politics will be if they fail.

Given that, Donald better build that wall or the US will probably be Democrat for ever more and at the mercy of the minority vote.

Constitutionally he can't build a wall, or can he?

COYP

Rubin 09 Nov 16 12.51pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter: [Link] It's not. I tried to, and had to stop when he partially agreed with a caller who suggested that Hillary wasn't elected because she was a woman. Nothing to do with her numerous criminal and immortal activities then, James. He's as partisan as is possible.

Rubin

09 Nov 16 12.51pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter:

[Link]

It's not. I tried to, and had to stop when he partially agreed with a caller who suggested that Hillary wasn't elected because she was a woman. Nothing to do with her numerous criminal and immortal activities then, James. He's as partisan as is possible.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 12.52pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter: [Link] It really isn't. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 12.52pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Worth listening to LBC Radio's James O'Brien's take on the matter:

[Link]

It really isn't.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Hrolf The Ganger 09 Nov 16 12.53pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Constitutionally he can't build a wall, or can he? I assume it was a metaphorical wall.

Hrolf The Ganger

09 Nov 16 12.53pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Constitutionally he can't build a wall, or can he?

I assume it was a metaphorical wall.

DanH SW2 09 Nov 16 1.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Another chance for all those self proclaimed "intelligent" people to say how "stupid" and "racist" the opposition are. The more educated the more brainwashed.....apparently. Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

DanH

SW2 09 Nov 16 1.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Another chance for all those self proclaimed "intelligent" people to say how "stupid" and "racist" the opposition are.

The more educated the more brainwashed.....apparently.

Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 1.02pm
Originally posted by DanH Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will. Snob Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 Nov 16 1.02pm

Originally posted by DanH

Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

Snob

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 09 Nov 16 1.06pm
Originally posted by DanH Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will. Because that group has no prospects, is doomed to be a sometimes-employed acted was like many similar UK white males without degrees (at the Brexit vote) who decided they wanted what the populist offered them? Edited by Mr_Gristle (09 Nov 2016 1.07pm) Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 09 Nov 16 1.06pm

Originally posted by DanH

Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

Because that group has no prospects, is doomed to be a sometimes-employed acted was like many similar UK white males without degrees (at the Brexit vote) who decided they wanted what the populist offered them?

Edited by Mr_Gristle (09 Nov 2016 1.07pm)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Hrolf The Ganger 09 Nov 16 1.06pm
Originally posted by DanH Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will. Erm, that many people with a degree think that automatically makes them the keepers of all wisdom and the moral high ground? We all know people like that don't we children?

Hrolf The Ganger

09 Nov 16 1.06pm

Originally posted by DanH

Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

Erm, that many people with a degree think that automatically makes them the keepers of all wisdom and the moral high ground?

We all know people like that don't we children?

Michaelawt85 Bexley 09 Nov 16 1.10pm
Originally posted by Rubin It's not. I tried to, and had to stop when he partially agreed with a caller who suggested that Hillary wasn't elected because she was a woman. Nothing to do with her numerous criminal and immortal activities then, James. He's as partisan as is possible. Not listened to the show but for a country which elected it's first black president 8 years ago I don't believe she was kept from the white house due to her gender. Nor do I believe every one who voted for trump is a racist sexist bigot either. Much more complex reasons for this . We have had Clinton democrat, Bush republican, Obama democrat and now trump so by the law of probabilities in either 4 or 8 years it will be a democrat back in. I wouldn't bet against Michelle Obama having a crack at it When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Michaelawt85

Bexley 09 Nov 16 1.10pm

Originally posted by Rubin

Not listened to the show but for a country which elected it's first black president 8 years ago I don't believe she was kept from the white house due to her gender. Nor do I believe every one who voted for trump is a racist sexist bigot either. Much more complex reasons for this . We have had Clinton democrat, Bush republican, Obama democrat and now trump so by the law of probabilities in either 4 or 8 years it will be a democrat back in. I wouldn't bet against Michelle Obama having a crack at it

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Michaelawt85 Bexley 09 Nov 16 1.15pm
Originally posted by DanH Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will. He said he would work for the disenfranchised. Those who had been forgotten about and left behind without any prospects. Because he wasn't a career politician this was seen as an asset. They voted for him because he spoke to them and gave them hope. When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Michaelawt85

Bexley 09 Nov 16 1.15pm

Originally posted by DanH

Trump's surge in support came largely from white males without college degrees. Read into that what you will.

He said he would work for the disenfranchised. Those who had been forgotten about and left behind without any prospects. Because he wasn't a career politician this was seen as an asset. They voted for him because he spoke to them and gave them hope.

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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