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dreamwaverider Flag London 24 Aug 22 6.10pm

One week one day to go til the transfer window closes. Drags on way too long in my view. I would have closed it two weeks after the first match.

Edited by dreamwaverider (24 Aug 2022 6.12pm)

 
Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 24 Aug 22 7.02pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Is it just me ? I think Gordon is very overvalued . I think he is a very average player in a very bad team . I would have snapped their hand off at 40 mill . My Everton pal was laughing when he heard the news that it was turned down and said hes not worth 25 mill .

Apparently 3 of the 4 goals he scored last season were deflected. If Werner struggled for goals, I'm not sure Gordon will do any better

 
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Aug 22 7.12pm

The transfer window, and the tory leadership election, date back to the jurassic period.

'Much ado about nothing'

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 24 Aug 22 8.29pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Is it just me ? I think Gordon is very overvalued . I think he is a very average player in a very bad team . I would have snapped their hand off at 40 mill . My Everton pal was laughing when he heard the news that it was turned down and said hes not worth 25 mill .

Think your right but this whole window we have seen a number of valuations that are difficult to understand . The two at Watford, are well over valued , the Forest deal for a Wolves player untried comes to mind, even Gallagher, if 35million is true is debatable. The trouble being owners with more money than proven sense, if they pay then that’s the market rate

 
sprites Flag Auckland 24 Aug 22 9.39pm

Originally posted by Putitout

Think your right but this whole window we have seen a number of valuations that are difficult to understand . The two at Watford, are well over valued , the Forest deal for a Wolves player untried comes to mind, even Gallagher, if 35million is true is debatable. The trouble being owners with more money than proven sense, if they pay then that’s the market rate

Gordon is a diving tit with a stupid haircut who's faster than your average player. That's it. I'd have snapped their hand off for $20 mil, let alone 40.

 
The groover Flag Danbury 24 Aug 22 9.47pm

CG doesn't look the same player for chelsea as he did for us.

He seems to have lost his spark. Like AWB he needs to come home.

 
DANGERCLOSE Flag London 24 Aug 22 11.01pm

Originally posted by The groover

CG doesn't look the same player for chelsea as he did for us.

He seems to have lost his spark. Like AWB he needs to come home.

Agreed

 
Stirlingsays Flag 24 Aug 22 11.59pm

Originally posted by Putitout

Think your right but this whole window we have seen a number of valuations that are difficult to understand . The two at Watford, are well over valued , the Forest deal for a Wolves player untried comes to mind, even Gallagher, if 35million is true is debatable. The trouble being owners with more money than proven sense, if they pay then that’s the market rate


I often hear this phrase and I'm not criticising you for saying it. What I would say is that I don't think a single valuation is the market rate personally....some person might vastly overpay what the majority would pay.

I think the market rate is more related to what most would pay....because you are always going to have the odd customer go way over or way under....but what the majority would pay should surely qualify more.

Just my two pennies.

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 25 Aug 22 7.36am

Oh for sure - How often will a club pay over the odds because they think a single player is the solution to a particular problem & in the hope of solving that problem they can (for example) maintain PL status, which in turn provides adequate payback -

Obviously a gamble, great if it comes off, it can be devastating if it doesn't.

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I often hear this phrase and I'm not criticising you for saying it. What I would say is that I don't think a single valuation is the market rate personally....some person might vastly overpay what the majority would pay.

I think the market rate is more related to what most would pay....because you are always going to have the odd customer go way over or way under....but what the majority would pay should surely qualify more.

Just my two pennies.

 
taylors lovechild Flag 25 Aug 22 8.48am

At this stage of the window there is definitely a degree of brinkmanship, especially when it comes to players that clubs would rather not sell. I wonder if Chelsea had bid 40m in say June whether Everton would have accepted that. Similarly, Fofana's price is not going to come down with the window close to closing. Another factor is the availability of options. If a manager says he wants a player with PL experience then that immediately narrows the pool. If they want him to be young that shrinks it further. Watching the Sunderland Till I Die documentary is great viewing if you want to see what Everton, Chelsea and West Ham's office will look like on the last day of the transfer window.

For Palace I don't think we're desperate and that puts us in a stronger bargaining position. It might be frustrating that we miss out on targets, but I think it is good if we go in knowing what we want to pay and stick to it. I wonder if Parish has looked to Levy in this regard.

Edited by taylors lovechild (25 Aug 2022 8.49am)

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 25 Aug 22 10.32am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I often hear this phrase and I'm not criticising you for saying it. What I would say is that I don't think a single valuation is the market rate personally....some person might vastly overpay what the majority would pay.

I think the market rate is more related to what most would pay....because you are always going to have the odd customer go way over or way under....but what the majority would pay should surely qualify more.

Just my two pennies.

I agree that at the time of an inflated price is paid ,that doesn’t represent the going rate. But as we see with the transfer market going forward once these precedents are set in just a season or two they become a norm, Just a few seasons ago who would have dreamed you would be paying £25/30 million for promising Championship players. Yet the pattern was set two or three seasons back, now those figures crop up all the time, I would add that there is possibly two markets developing here, divided by the haves, and the have nots, one seems to have limits, the other none.

 
sotac464 Flag Berkshire 25 Aug 22 4.27pm

More click bait

Palace interested in Mctominay

 

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palace99 Flag New Mills 25 Aug 22 4.37pm

Originally posted by Willo

To my miniscule mind Gordon is over-valued at £40 mill at this stage of his career.
Perhaps a deal will be struck with a much lower sum rising to £40 Mill with add-ons.

Not only is he massively overvalued but why do Chelsea want another wide player? They've just bought Sterling who we know is not a striker but can play either left or right of an attacking 3 (a bit like Wilf) and they have 3 decent wingers unable to get a regular game - Hudson Odi, Pulisic and Ziyech - the last 2 were big signings.

Their transfer dealings are looking strange - why buy another left back, and will Fofana even get in their team?

If they buy Gordon and Fofana with the new LB that's about £200m and i don't think their first X1 is improved.

 
Stirlingsays Flag 25 Aug 22 4.42pm

Originally posted by Putitout

I agree that at the time of an inflated price is paid ,that doesn’t represent the going rate. But as we see with the transfer market going forward once these precedents are set in just a season or two they become a norm, Just a few seasons ago who would have dreamed you would be paying £25/30 million for promising Championship players. Yet the pattern was set two or three seasons back, now those figures crop up all the time, I would add that there is possibly two markets developing here, divided by the haves, and the have nots, one seems to have limits, the other none.

I think it's a good observation. The divide in wealth in football accelerates far beyond the divide in ability.

It models the way society has gone.

I'm among the first to recognise that ability deserves better rewards but I don't think the market works well here.

I remember Cameron...back during his 'call me Dave' stage spoke about this crazy spike difference between the highest and lowest paid in a company. Of course, when he got in he did bugger all about it.

If you go back to the beginning of the seventies the bank manager was far more connected to a realistic wage...I don't know, say ten times the salary of the bank clerk.

Obviously I'm very much not on the left but I can't help but agree with the complaints in this area.

Reward the talented and have the most able in the most important jobs...but what people earn shouldn't divide them from the real world.

Sorry, I've got a bit political on a transfer thread....it's out of place.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2022 4.45pm)

 

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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 25 Aug 22 4.58pm

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Oh for sure - How often will a club pay over the odds because they think a single player is the solution to a particular problem & in the hope of solving that problem they can (for example) maintain PL status, which in turn provides adequate payback -

Obviously a gamble, great if it comes off, it can be devastating if it doesn't.

Benteke?

 

Bring back Brolin
Squidgeedee Flag Maidstone 25 Aug 22 7.30pm

Just seen parish is watching nice

Have we been linked to any of their players

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 22 7.35pm

Originally posted by Squidgeedee

Just seen parish is watching nice

Have we been linked to any of their players

Mario Lemina and Aaron Ramsey have played for Nice this season.

 
Squidgeedee Flag Maidstone 25 Aug 22 7.44pm

Originally posted by Willo

Mario Lemina and Aaron Ramsey have played for Nice this season.

Interesting to see both Favre as manager and Moody there as DOF

 
Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Aug 22 8.36pm

Originally posted by Willo

Mario Lemina and Aaron Ramsey have played for Nice this season.

Khéphren Thuram and Kasper Dolberg would be two who would be good addictions

 

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Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 25 Aug 22 8.40pm

Originally posted by Squidgeedee

Just seen parish is watching nice

Have we been linked to any of their players

Dolberg used to play for Vieira,so maybe watching him.

 
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