Most 16 year olda are in education because they are not given time to find a job.
How many turn 18 and are still no better in an academic form than at 16.
They should be given an allowance for say 4months, minimal just to get them used to having a bit of dough in their pocket.
That would inspire them to want to have that regularly and look for a job.
If no joy after that time then it stops and you go education or go without.

More like 4 or 5 years. That's when the next global recession will have hit and after the last round of European elections (Germany, France, Holland, Austria etc) Eurosceptic parties are now in opposition. The incumbent government always gets the blame for a recession whether it's anything to do with them or not.

So in around 5 years' time the whole Eurozone project comes under severe pressure again and this time is unlikely to survive (the electorates keep getting ignored by those who know best). By then, we may have left and experienced whatever downturns we are going to face (if we don't leave we're in a fine old mess all over again when what we strove to stay part of, disintegrates).

My guess is that if we fast forward about 10 years or so we'll be part of a European Union II consisting of us, Germany, France, the Benelux countries and one or two others.

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong then.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Or they could do what my generation did (from 13 yo as we went out to work proper at 15/16) and put down their bl**dy mobiles, get off social media and get a part-time job that will give their own money to spend. A far more worthwhile exercise than simply handing them someone else's money!

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

The NFU keep harping on that there will be a shortage of fruit pickers and seasonal labour. Young people in their summer holidays or at weekends would seem ideal for this task.

Optimistic as ever

I think most of these companies pay above the minimum wage so i dont think its a pittance.
On tv a while back a farmer was paying nearly £11 an hour. You would struggle to get that on the high street.

They don't have to make up the entire workforce but for a month and half, at least, in peak season they could provide a glut of additional labour. Or 10 weeks of the 6 month season including other holidays.

And they can always reintroduce the seasonal agriculture scheme that was only dropped 5 years ago due to the availability of EU labour.

Optimistic as ever

Fairy

What job opportunities do you think a 16 year old in London has? Will be interested to hear your suggestions.

There are many reasons why the profitable farms - agribusinesses - can be long-term harmful.

For example, by demanding super sized fields there are few hedgerows and the wildlife suffers. Try visiting Eastern Germany and seeing how many birds there aren't in the countryside.

This is a whole lot more complex than making widgets.

In its wisdom, in any case, Government has decided that subsidies will be phased out in the UK between 2021 and 2027, thereby making it uneconomic against the subsidised farms in other countries. The EU, on the other hand, has no such plans.

So small farms die, agribusiness is the only way forward and productivity levels will suffer overall. Likely the soil will degrade as it is over-farmed too.

So look forward to massive fields wherever feasible and lots of low quality imports from the other side of the world. I would guess the EU will aim to sell internally, no point in going through the hassle of selling to the UK.

Edited by Mapletree (26 Oct 2018 6.32pm)

You really don’t know what you are talking about on this. Stop digging.

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