And currently on the website they are promoting multiple lovers for women. As if they need encouragement. Distasteful or disgraceful - I don't think that helps anyone.

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I agree with quite a lot of this. I don't have any issue with the BBC withdrawing from much of it's peripheral broadcasting. I think it could drop ALL it's music stations without anyone being affected. Reducing the size of it's management makes sense too.

Concentrating on what it does best makes perfect sense and that includes it's news coverage, both home and abroad. Whether that needs 6000 people is a question I cannot possibly answer but keeping it as it is seems essential to me to provide us all with news from an objective viewpoint. As I often said I don't see any bias in the BBC. Only those with a strong leaning to either the left or right tend to see a bias and the left do every bit as much as those on here do.

So I hope that the licence fee model is retained in some way. I don't want to see the BBC's independence threatened in any way, either by government, commercial interests or worst of all by an owner with an agenda.

Everyone, whatever their political viewpoint, needs to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Nothing lasts for ever and one day there will be a government you don't like who the BBC will be holding to account too.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Dropping all music channels mustn't happen. Radio 1, fair enough, the (multiple) commercial stations cover that content. But there are not many alternative music stations. How would people get to discover Jazz, for example? Or folk music? Or Heavy Metal, Big Band, Classical, and etc. The BBC do a pretty decent job of airing a variety of different musical genres.

Out of interest, what's the difference between an owner with an agenda and a director with an agenda?

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (16 Feb 2020 10.52pm)

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

The reason the BBC is going to fall is precisely because of people like WE.

The BBC isn't what he claims it is. It isn't objective and it isn't balanced.

Many of its ex employees make a mockery of what he says.

A form of much reduced and de-fanged BBC will be the end result before Boris leaves office.

But it doesn't really matter does it, the left destroyed a once loved institution, like they fecking destroy everything and now Boris is driving the train that's going to put it out of its current misery.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Feb 2020 11.48pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Precisely.

We will see just how committed Johnson is to this over the next couple of years.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Once again the BBC shows it's tolerance this time to a former player commentating on a game.

During the broadcast, Ramage, who the BBC confirmed would no longer work with the corporation, said: "When I look at certain players, their body language, their stance, the way they act, you just feel, hold on a minute, he needs pulling down a peg or two.

"So I'd probably say that about all the young black lads, all the young advice if they wanted it, that, you know, it's about, when you are struggling for form, you are going through a sticky patch, it's about going back to basics, working hard, and doing the right things."

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Ramage immediately apologised.

""Ramage's full apology said: "I wish to apologise unreservedly for a comment that I made after yesterday's game.

"What I said was wholly inappropriate and unintentional. Race is irrelevant to the issues that I was discussing and I deeply regret what I said. I sincerely hope that the players accept my apology.

"I would like to reiterate my heartfelt apology not only to the players but also the fans that have listened to me over the past seven years and also to those that followed me throughout my career.

"I would like to reinforce that this error in no way reflects my personal views.""

But apparently it is never enough to apologise so the BBC is happy to work with people who break the law e.g. convicted killers and drug offenders because they have done their time but one word out of place during a live broadcast and you are toast.

And if you read what Ramage said it is literally one word "black" I think most of us would agree with the rest of his comments that some young players regardless of race get big headed and forget the basics.

Still in BBC land tolerance never extends to racial slip of the tongues and apologies do not count.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Feb 2020 7.58am)

One more point

Being objective cannot depend on where you stand politically by the very nature and definition of objectivity.
Being balanced means, politically, you have to give equal time to all political opinions. Since the BBC demonises any right wing thinking, then it also clearly isn't balanced.

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The whole media is infested with 'progressives' and Lefties. How blind must you be if you fail to see that?

Saying that it depends on your point of view is a disingenuous argument.
Why don't you back it up with some examples?

Here is a race baiting story from the BBC - quelle surprise.

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A student visa became life. And on return 'home' to Africa the street food made it all worthwhile. When sick they considered getting free treatment in the UK - like many others apparently. And considered getting free Western education for all the children. Luckily Africa was miles better - as we all know Sierra Leone is a lovely, street food vibe, kind of hipster place the BBC would love.
I guess any asylum seekers from there should also be considered illegal and immediately deported, as apparently, everyone is celebrating local culture and having a great time. All from this fact based and objective article, with no agenda whatsoever.

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I'm now strongly of the opinion that many advocates of "free speech" in the public sphere are getting in the way or worse. Podcasts like "Spiked", "Triggernometry" and "London Calling" with their catchy theme tunes and never ending discussions of "woke" culture like at the BBC simply do not accurately represent the dark path our society has taken and the threat we are currently facing. This culture has already produced a huge number of real victims and you won't find them discussing things like the rape gangs or drawing a red line between the huge increase in volient crime and mass immigration or highlighting the issue of demographic change etc.