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I've played no part in this thread up to now so apologies if I'm about to retread old ground and congratulations for reaching 700+ pages. Nugent-esque. However, I'm increasingly being swayed by the view of Mike Yeadon and others who argue that the PCR tests are wildly inaccurate and churning out thousands of false positives per day. I simply don't see how a disease that is supposedly twice as infectious as seasonal flu, which itself usually takes around 4-5 months to get round the country, has taken twice as long to infect far fewer people. Something just doesn't add up. It's also striking how few excess deaths there have been since the peak back in April/May when it obviously was rampaging round. Minimal excess deaths, hospitals actually less full than this time last year, yet apparently we have tens of thousands of cases per day and should be cowering away in our homes. So what gives? There is mounting evidence that Covid is far less deadly than previously thought, with the latest suggestion being that it kills 0.4% of cases or fewer and I honestly believe that there are far, far fewer cases than we're being told. I'm in a difficult position as my grandmother, brother and mother in law are all classed as 'vulnerable' owing to medical conditions so, even though I believe all this, I would never put them at risk by acting on it and get short shrift from my wife for even discussing it. However, for me something isn't right so I'd love someone on here to explain why my views are nonsense and put me at ease that this crappy Christmas with no boozing in the pub is going to be worth it.
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I've played no part in this thread up to now so apologies if I'm about to retread old ground and congratulations for reaching 700+ pages. Nugent-esque. However, I'm increasingly being swayed by the view of Mike Yeadon and others who argue that the PCR tests are wildly inaccurate and churning out thousands of false positives per day. I simply don't see how a disease that is supposedly twice as infectious as seasonal flu, which itself usually takes around 4-5 months to get round the country, has taken twice as long to infect far fewer people. Something just doesn't add up. It's also striking how few excess deaths there have been since the peak back in April/May when it obviously was rampaging round. Minimal excess deaths, hospitals actually less full than this time last year, yet apparently we have tens of thousands of cases per day and should be cowering away in our homes. So what gives? There is mounting evidence that Covid is far less deadly than previously thought, with the latest suggestion being that it kills 0.4% of cases or fewer and I honestly believe that there are far, far fewer cases than we're being told. I'm in a difficult position as my grandmother, brother and mother in law are all classed as 'vulnerable' owing to medical conditions so, even though I believe all this, I would never put them at risk by acting on it and get short shrift from my wife for even discussing it. However, for me something isn't right so I'd love someone on here to explain why my views are nonsense and put me at ease that this crappy Christmas with no boozing in the pub is going to be worth it. I thought flu cases were down because of all the washing hands, 2 metres, facemasks and general shielding the vulnerable?
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Originally posted by chris123
I thought flu cases were down because of all the washing hands, 2 metres, facemasks and general shielding the vulnerable? Not sure he said they were up, said supposedly twice as infectious. Thought his post was very well written
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I've played no part in this thread up to now so apologies if I'm about to retread old ground and congratulations for reaching 700+ pages. Nugent-esque. However, I'm increasingly being swayed by the view of Mike Yeadon and others who argue that the PCR tests are wildly inaccurate and churning out thousands of false positives per day. I simply don't see how a disease that is supposedly twice as infectious as seasonal flu, which itself usually takes around 4-5 months to get round the country, has taken twice as long to infect far fewer people. Something just doesn't add up. It's also striking how few excess deaths there have been since the peak back in April/May when it obviously was rampaging round. Minimal excess deaths, hospitals actually less full than this time last year, yet apparently we have tens of thousands of cases per day and should be cowering away in our homes. So what gives? There is mounting evidence that Covid is far less deadly than previously thought, with the latest suggestion being that it kills 0.4% of cases or fewer and I honestly believe that there are far, far fewer cases than we're being told. I'm in a difficult position as my grandmother, brother and mother in law are all classed as 'vulnerable' owing to medical conditions so, even though I believe all this, I would never put them at risk by acting on it and get short shrift from my wife for even discussing it. However, for me something isn't right so I'd love someone on here to explain why my views are nonsense and put me at ease that this crappy Christmas with no boozing in the pub is going to be worth it. Very good post
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Great Post Canterbury Eagle.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Not sure he said they were up, said supposedly twice as infectious. Thought his post was very well written I was just making the point that our attention to washing etc. seems to be working and so does add up.
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Originally posted by chris123
I was just making the point that our attention to washing etc. seems to be working and so does add up. Apologies, misread it. Too early and to soon after that disaster last night. I agree with you by the way
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Originally posted by chris123
I was just making the point that our attention to washing etc. seems to be working and so does add up. Haha, so after all these years of flu being the winter killer and spending millions of pounds of nhs money on an annual flu jab, all we had to do was wash our hands and wear a mask and flu disappears.
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Remember this? [Tweet Link]
Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Nov 2020 9.29am)
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To all those in Tier2 aren’t you just delighted that the government have elaborated on their instructions for pubs. Substantial meal with knife and fork and must be eating to be drinking otherwise you have to leave. Draconian in the extreme. They are trying to kill off social interaction. This will undoubtedly cause more problems than it resolves. How many pubs will basically be totally unable to open. Government probably don’t even have to help out these businesses however because they are allowed to be open, just can’t make any money.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Haha, so after all these years of flu being the winter killer and spending millions of pounds of nhs money on an annual flu jab, all we had to do was wash our hands and wear a mask and flu disappears. Just like this.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Remember this? [Tweet Link]
Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Nov 2020 9.29am) After all Rudi, you have to follow the science..... well, err, this weeks science anyway. I wonder what next week’s will be?
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