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Stirlingsays 20 Jan 22 11.13am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As this post is, once again, making personal comments about me perhaps I can respond. The issue is not about being argumentative. Many here are that, and express strong views forcibly. That's the essence of debate. The issue is about the subject of those views. It's a fundamental principle of internet posting that you address the post and not the poster. This principle is enshrined in the rules of this site but, just like Johnson in No 10, some think that the rules don't apply to them. I have no issue at all with criticism of my opinions. I do with personal criticism of my character and motivation. You have done the same of others and indeed of this site. I regard you presenting yourself as some kind of wronged poster as just yet another example of disingenuous posting. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Jan 22 11.13am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As this post is, once again, making personal comments about me perhaps I can respond.

The issue is not about being argumentative. Many here are that, and express strong views forcibly. That's the essence of debate.

The issue is about the subject of those views. It's a fundamental principle of internet posting that you address the post and not the poster. This principle is enshrined in the rules of this site but, just like Johnson in No 10, some think that the rules don't apply to them.

I have no issue at all with criticism of my opinions. I do with personal criticism of my character and motivation.

You have done the same of others and indeed of this site.

I regard you presenting yourself as some kind of wronged poster as just yet another example of disingenuous posting.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 20 Jan 22 11.21am
Originally posted by Harborough Eagle Apart from all the boaters and caravan/motorhome owners as well as mobile homes. Just spent the last few months trying to find a decent 28 inch smart tv with enough input for devices...there was only one choice in the end. There is a market for small tv's albeit not as popular as the large screen brigade. Get a 14/16 inch laptop?

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 20 Jan 22 11.21am

Originally posted by Harborough Eagle

Apart from all the boaters and caravan/motorhome owners as well as mobile homes.
Just spent the last few months trying to find a decent 28 inch smart tv with enough input for devices...there was only one choice in the end. There is a market for small tv's albeit not as popular as the large screen brigade.

Get a 14/16 inch laptop?

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Jan 22 11.45am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You have done the same of others and indeed of this site. I regard you presenting yourself as some kind of wronged poster as just yet another example of disingenuous posting. Here we have yet another post which addresses the poster and not the post. Whilst, being human, I might have occasionally strayed in the past I make an effort to stay within the rules and don't just ignore them, as some do. I have never criticised the site. I keep how I regard other posters to myself. I will criticise their comments and their politics, but not their character. It's not me which is being wronged. It is the site. Its charitable and tolerant attitude is being abused. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 20 Jan 22 11.45am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You have done the same of others and indeed of this site.

I regard you presenting yourself as some kind of wronged poster as just yet another example of disingenuous posting.

Here we have yet another post which addresses the poster and not the post.

Whilst, being human, I might have occasionally strayed in the past I make an effort to stay within the rules and don't just ignore them, as some do. I have never criticised the site.

I keep how I regard other posters to myself. I will criticise their comments and their politics, but not their character.

It's not me which is being wronged. It is the site. Its charitable and tolerant attitude is being abused.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

becky over the moon 20 Jan 22 12.12pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle . Its charitable and tolerant attitude is being abused. This tolerant Moderator is getting fed up with people ignoring her tolerant, gentle warnings....... Anyone (and everyone) else who discusses another poster rather than the BBC - the supposed subject of this thread - will be getting a yellow card......... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 20 Jan 22 12.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

. Its charitable and tolerant attitude is being abused.

This tolerant Moderator is getting fed up with people ignoring her tolerant, gentle warnings.......

Anyone (and everyone) else who discusses another poster rather than the BBC - the supposed subject of this thread - will be getting a yellow card.........

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Jan 22 9.35pm
bbc Edited by HKOwen (20 Jan 2022 9.36pm) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 20 Jan 22 9.35pm

bbc

Edited by HKOwen (20 Jan 2022 9.36pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Mapletree Croydon 20 Jan 22 10.10pm
Originally posted by HKOwen bbc Edited by HKOwen (20 Jan 2022 9.36pm) BBC poster [Link]

Mapletree

Croydon 20 Jan 22 10.10pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

bbc

Edited by HKOwen (20 Jan 2022 9.36pm)

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Stirlingsays 21 Jan 22 6.42am
BBC better behave circumspectly because Boris covets British broadcasters currently being boshy communists. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Jan 22 6.42am

BBC better behave circumspectly because Boris covets British broadcasters currently being boshy communists.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Helmet46 Croydon 21 Jan 22 7.26am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If our politics remain as they are then I fear you will be right. The downward spiral into populism doesn't appear to have reached the bottom yet. I think we will all have to suffer quite a lot more before the need for a revival of standards is capable of being sold as the way forward. Then we need an inspirational, charismatic and transparently honest leader to emerge who can command the trust and respect of all, even those who disagree with them politically. Much as I disliked much of her politics I respected Thatcher as a genuine leader who knew where she wanted to go, how to get there and possessed the determination not to be diverted. She knew emasculating the Unions was essential, so she did it. She knew we needed the EU but only on our terms, so she got them. We need another real leader who wants to serve. Not any more opportunists seeking office for the glory. I agree with this. Thatcher was probably our last leader. We have endured pitiful weakness ever since. The trouble is that I look at Parliament, across all parties, and simply cannot see a real leader amongst them. They all seem to be a load of self serving trough noshers. I had high hopes for John Smith and was very sad when he passed. I think he had the makings of a really decent leader and instead we were hoodwinked by the handwringing Blair and that, in my opinion, is where it all started to go horribly wrong. (I guess if your leader is an ex-barrister then bending truth, twisting arguments and spin is what we should have expected). However, in this case, I really don’t see why I should be made to finance the BBC but then, if I don’t, I should not be permitted to watch its service or listen to its radio. The TV licence number should be my login. No number, no service. If you want to watch “ad hoc” then you pay for the show. They just need to modernise. Edited by Helmet46 (21 Jan 2022 7.31am)

Helmet46

Croydon 21 Jan 22 7.26am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If our politics remain as they are then I fear you will be right. The downward spiral into populism doesn't appear to have reached the bottom yet. I think we will all have to suffer quite a lot more before the need for a revival of standards is capable of being sold as the way forward.

Then we need an inspirational, charismatic and transparently honest leader to emerge who can command the trust and respect of all, even those who disagree with them politically.

Much as I disliked much of her politics I respected Thatcher as a genuine leader who knew where she wanted to go, how to get there and possessed the determination not to be diverted. She knew emasculating the Unions was essential, so she did it. She knew we needed the EU but only on our terms, so she got them.

We need another real leader who wants to serve. Not any more opportunists seeking office for the glory.

I agree with this. Thatcher was probably our last leader. We have endured pitiful weakness ever since. The trouble is that I look at Parliament, across all parties, and simply cannot see a real leader amongst them. They all seem to be a load of self serving trough noshers. I had high hopes for John Smith and was very sad when he passed. I think he had the makings of a really decent leader and instead we were hoodwinked by the handwringing Blair and that, in my opinion, is where it all started to go horribly wrong. (I guess if your leader is an ex-barrister then bending truth, twisting arguments and spin is what we should have expected).

However, in this case, I really don’t see why I should be made to finance the BBC but then, if I don’t, I should not be permitted to watch its service or listen to its radio. The TV licence number should be my login. No number, no service. If you want to watch “ad hoc” then you pay for the show. They just need to modernise.

Edited by Helmet46 (21 Jan 2022 7.31am)

The Dolphin 21 Jan 22 7.35am
Helmet - I know are off topic but I have just posted about the lack of leadership on the Boris thread - and Wisbech - our politics are different but I agree and have said before that Maggie was the last real Leader we had.

The Dolphin

21 Jan 22 7.35am

Helmet - I know are off topic but I have just posted about the lack of leadership on the Boris thread - and Wisbech - our politics are different but I agree and have said before that Maggie was the last real Leader we had.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jan 22 8.30am
Originally posted by Slimey Toad Get a 14/16 inch laptop? Exactly. When I grew up like most teens I wanted a 14" portable TV in my bedroom. Today the kids have laptops and tablets so apart from the niche market for 12 volt TV's for boats and caravans they don't bother to make them any more or at least they are not top quality. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jan 22 8.30am

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Get a 14/16 inch laptop?

Exactly. When I grew up like most teens I wanted a 14" portable TV in my bedroom.

Today the kids have laptops and tablets so apart from the niche market for 12 volt TV's for boats and caravans they don't bother to make them any more or at least they are not top quality.

One more point

Painter Croydon 21 Jan 22 9.50am
Originally posted by Harborough Eagle Apart from all the boaters and caravan/motorhome owners as well as mobile homes. Just spent the last few months trying to find a decent 28 inch smart tv with enough input for devices...there was only one choice in the end. There is a market for small tv's albeit not as popular as the large screen brigade. Talking of large screens, I wandered into Curry’s the other day, they didn’t have what I wanted, just printer ink. I was drawn by the TV dept, so had a look round, could believe the size of the TVs and quality, they had a 90 inch one. How many people have got a room big enough to site a 90 inch screen, then get far enough away to watch. The only decent thing about the BBC is iplayer, when you can watch when you feel like it.

Painter

Croydon 21 Jan 22 9.50am

Originally posted by Harborough Eagle

Talking of large screens, I wandered into Curry’s the other day, they didn’t have what I wanted, just printer ink. I was drawn by the TV dept, so had a look round, could believe the size of the TVs and quality, they had a 90 inch one. How many people have got a room big enough to site a 90 inch screen, then get far enough away to watch.

The only decent thing about the BBC is iplayer, when you can watch when you feel like it.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jan 22 10.33am
Originally posted by Painter Talking of large screens, I wandered into Curry’s the other day, they didn’t have what I wanted, just printer ink. I was drawn by the TV dept, so had a look round, could believe the size of the TVs and quality, they had a 90 inch one. How many people have got a room big enough to site a 90 inch screen, then get far enough away to watch. The only decent thing about the BBC is iplayer, when you can watch when you feel like it. I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors. They have been around for ever but the quality was nowhere near current TV's. However I have seen articles recently that the ones coming out in the next year or so are top notch. Of course you need a certain amount of space but it has the added attraction that the projector is small and the pull down screen can just be rolled up into the ceiling when not in use. So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen. Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jan 22 10.33am

Originally posted by Painter

Talking of large screens, I wandered into Curry’s the other day, they didn’t have what I wanted, just printer ink. I was drawn by the TV dept, so had a look round, could believe the size of the TVs and quality, they had a 90 inch one. How many people have got a room big enough to site a 90 inch screen, then get far enough away to watch.

The only decent thing about the BBC is iplayer, when you can watch when you feel like it.

I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors.

They have been around for ever but the quality was nowhere near current TV's. However I have seen articles recently that the ones coming out in the next year or so are top notch. Of course you need a certain amount of space but it has the added attraction that the projector is small and the pull down screen can just be rolled up into the ceiling when not in use.

So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am)

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jan 22 10.48am
The BBC Sounds app I highly recommend. Even has audiobooks now. You don't need to subscribe to a lot of streaming services and their inane ads. Their is a choice, you can have either.

steeleye20

Croydon 21 Jan 22 10.48am

The BBC Sounds app I highly recommend.

Even has audiobooks now.

You don't need to subscribe to a lot of streaming services and their inane ads.

Their is a choice, you can have either.

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jan 22 11.43am
Originally posted by Badger11 I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors. They have been around for ever but the quality was nowhere near current TV's. However I have seen articles recently that the ones coming out in the next year or so are top notch. Of course you need a certain amount of space but it has the added attraction that the projector is small and the pull down screen can just be rolled up into the ceiling when not in use. So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen. Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am) I have a projector as well as a big TV. I used the projector a bit when I bought it, but now I hardly bother. You just don't want to watch a 100 inch screen all the time, and you either have to have it wired in and have it on the ceiling or at the correct distance and position on a table for the throw of the picture. The projectors can be noisy, and they get hot, plus you have to have space to fit the screen. I'm sure they are brilliant if you have a dedicated cinema room, but you aren't going to watch The Chase on one every night in your lounge.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Jan 22 11.43am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors.

So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am)

I have a projector as well as a big TV. I used the projector a bit when I bought it, but now I hardly bother.
You just don't want to watch a 100 inch screen all the time, and you either have to have it wired in and have it on the ceiling or at the correct distance and position on a table for the throw of the picture. The projectors can be noisy, and they get hot, plus you have to have space to fit the screen.
I'm sure they are brilliant if you have a dedicated cinema room, but you aren't going to watch The Chase on one every night in your lounge.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jan 22 12.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I have a projector as well as a big TV. I used the projector a bit when I bought it, but now I hardly bother. You just don't want to watch a 100 inch screen all the time, and you either have to have it wired in and have it on the ceiling or at the correct distance and position on a table for the throw of the picture. The projectors can be noisy, and they get hot, plus you have to have space to fit the screen. I'm sure they are brilliant if you have a dedicated cinema room, but you aren't going to watch The Chase on one every night in your lounge. You didn't say how old your project was but you make valid points. Those are the issues they need to address especially screen size. You need a projector where the customer can adjust the screen and not lose quality so one might have 100" screen another 35". One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jan 22 12.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You didn't say how old your project was but you make valid points. Those are the issues they need to address especially screen size. You need a projector where the customer can adjust the screen and not lose quality so one might have 100" screen another 35".

One more point

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jan 22 1.44pm
Originally posted by Badger11 You didn't say how old your project was but you make valid points. Those are the issues they need to address especially screen size. You need a projector where the customer can adjust the screen and not lose quality so one might have 100" screen another 35". It's only a year and a half old. If you want one that has all the bells and whistles, then it is going to cost several thousand pounds. You could buy a 75inch oled for less.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Jan 22 1.44pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's only a year and a half old.

If you want one that has all the bells and whistles, then it is going to cost several thousand pounds. You could buy a 75inch oled for less.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 22 7.49pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors. They have been around for ever but the quality was nowhere near current TV's. However I have seen articles recently that the ones coming out in the next year or so are top notch. Of course you need a certain amount of space but it has the added attraction that the projector is small and the pull down screen can just be rolled up into the ceiling when not in use. So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen. Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am) We bought a 55 inch OLED TV instead of each buying the other Christmas presents this year. I did a lot of research first and settled on the Hisense. The quality is wonderful. The colours and sharpness make watching TV a completely new experience. And the number of built-in apps means I could watch a different channel every day of the year, never mind a different programme. Although I still watch the BBC more than anything else, along with bowling on YouTube. The nature programmes are especially great. I have it hanging on the wall, at a slight down angle, so it takes up no space. I have also hidden the cables behind the plasterboard, so it looks very neat and tidy. No need for a projector. Best of all, it cost under £500. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 22 7.49pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I think the next big thing for TV's is the move to projectors.

So instead of tripping over a large screen TV dominating your living room you can just pull the screen up and down when required and if you have a white wall you don't even need a screen.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jan 2022 10.34am)

We bought a 55 inch OLED TV instead of each buying the other Christmas presents this year. I did a lot of research first and settled on the Hisense. The quality is wonderful. The colours and sharpness make watching TV a completely new experience. And the number of built-in apps means I could watch a different channel every day of the year, never mind a different programme. Although I still watch the BBC more than anything else, along with bowling on YouTube. The nature programmes are especially great.

I have it hanging on the wall, at a slight down angle, so it takes up no space. I have also hidden the cables behind the plasterboard, so it looks very neat and tidy. No need for a projector. Best of all, it cost under £500.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

cryrst The garden of England 22 Jan 22 5.42am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We bought a 55 inch OLED TV instead of each buying the other Christmas presents this year. I did a lot of research first and settled on the Hisense. The quality is wonderful. The colours and sharpness make watching TV a completely new experience. And the number of built-in apps means I could watch a different channel every day of the year, never mind a different programme. Although I still watch the BBC more than anything else, along with bowling on YouTube. The nature programmes are especially great. I have it hanging on the wall, at a slight down angle, so it takes up no space. I have also hidden the cables behind the plasterboard, so it looks very neat and tidy. No need for a projector. Best of all, it cost under £500. Your monthly interest on savings then

cryrst

The garden of England 22 Jan 22 5.42am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your monthly interest on savings then

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jan 22 1.25pm
Originally posted by cryrst Your monthly interest on savings then That would be nice! To have so much dosh as to be able to leave enough on deposit to generate £6,000 a year in interest at today's miserly rates. Regrettably it's untrue. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Jan 22 1.25pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Your monthly interest on savings then

That would be nice! To have so much dosh as to be able to leave enough on deposit to generate £6,000 a year in interest at today's miserly rates. Regrettably it's untrue.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Beckenham 22 Jan 22 1.53pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We bought a 55 inch OLED TV instead of each buying the other Christmas presents this year. I did a lot of research first and settled on the Hisense. The quality is wonderful. The colours and sharpness make watching TV a completely new experience. And the number of built-in apps means I could watch a different channel every day of the year, never mind a different programme. Although I still watch the BBC more than anything else, along with bowling on YouTube. The nature programmes are especially great. I have it hanging on the wall, at a slight down angle, so it takes up no space. I have also hidden the cables behind the plasterboard, so it looks very neat and tidy. No need for a projector. Best of all, it cost under £500. Well that is the benchmark that projectors will have to beat if they want the public to buy them. As I said it is the next generation of Projectors which they have announced at the tech fairs so I expect it will be 2/3 years before we see them. Edited by Badger11 (22 Jan 2022 1.53pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 22 Jan 22 1.53pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Well that is the benchmark that projectors will have to beat if they want the public to buy them. As I said it is the next generation of Projectors which they have announced at the tech fairs so I expect it will be 2/3 years before we see them.

Edited by Badger11 (22 Jan 2022 1.53pm)

One more point

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