We are talking a timescale of roughly ten years since the first conviction of these gangs you are talking like it was century ago. I can't express the disgust I feel regarding the cover up of these crimes and the disgust I feel for the people who covered it up.

We are talking about a police cover up here.

Do we know whether the Police have ever decided not to publicise the existence of a serial killer? If they think they feed on the oxygen of publicity they might well do so.

We don't know. Only those in operational charge of any investigation knows what the thinking behind every decision was. Second guessing these might make good headlines in the Mail but doesn't actually tell us very much.

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Of course it never has been acceptable to "fiddle with kids". However it is undeniable that when I was a kid myself no-one even really knew it was going on. It just wasn't talked about. Looking back now there was a dodgy scoutmaster who would certainly have attracted some attention today. There was though a funny guy in the local park who made advances to local boys who was arrested by the Police.

It was a different culture though. Those in the Churches, and in places of authority like Parliament, felt such things were best handled "in house" and the media back then was much more deferential to them.

That things have changed for the better is obvious but that doesn't mean we ought to condemn everyone who lived back then. They didn't know what we know.

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"Robinson" attacks Muslims per se. Which I suggested was not appropriate. I also suggested that you need to be factual. He isn't.

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WE's opinions all amount to the same outcome.

He's an apologist and an elitest, and it's the pro globalist agenda that are the reasons why this imported rape situation happens at the scale it does....and will continue. It's this agenda which is why we will have to continue to pick up body parts off our streets.....Yet the peoples of Eastern Europe won't have to.

He can voice his opinions but as far as I'm concerned they aren't worth used toilet paper.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Feb 2020 11.54pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Has anyone on here has tarnished 'every' muslim.
Even TR has categorically said it isnt all muslims;in fact his issue is with islam not muslims.
Dig dug strikes again.
You are going to wear that shovel out.

Another comment from the Secretary of the Child Abuse Inquiry in case people think the elite blocking or not acting on investigations was in the past.

He pointed out that a number of the major political parties still do not have a child safeguarding policy and for those that do it is a tick box exercise "fire and forget".

The Inquiry asked the Chief Whip of the Labour Party what he would do if allegations were reported to him. He replied that his actions would depend on the individual circumstances and the seriousness of the allegations.

Wrong answer, Labour is one of the few parties that does have a policy and the Chief Whip does not have any part in the process. He should have followed his own guidelines and not inserted himself into the process.

Still this is all theoretical, I mean senior people in the Labour party would never insert themselves into a process going against their own guidelines next your be telling me they did this over claims of anti-Semitism, oh wait they did.

And to add balance the Tories do not have a policy neither do the Greens who allowed a candidate to use her father who was awaiting trial on serious sexual offences to be her election agent.

I liked the secretary he was calm methodical and backed up what he said with specific examples his main point being politicians are more concerned about reputation (theirs or the party) than justice.

And the way his is talking nothing has changed.

Edited by Badger11 (26 Feb 2020 8.10am)

One more point

When grooming gangs are described as "muslim" then every other Muslim is tarnished by association.

The IRA weren't described as "Roman Catholic" terrorists.

"Robinson" does use "Muslim", although I don't actually see much distinction between using that and "Islam". As an example:-

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I see you aren't changing your habits either.

I freely admit I have habits, or as I prefer to describe them, standards.

I prefer truth to lies and if I see lies then I will call them out. If that happens frequently then that's only because the lies tend to be repeated.

I also know that many would like this place to be a cosy right wing echo chamber where everyone can live in a bubble of confirmation bias. There are plenty of closed entry forums where people like me get excluded. If that's what people want then I suggest they join them and then they won't be "bored" by me. This, so far as I know, is a football supporters forum, which has a News?Politics sub section open to ALL supporters, whatever their views might be and however they might wish to express them. Whether such a section is wise is a matter for the site owners, but whilst it does as a supporter I will use it.

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One more point