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georgenorman 25 Jan 22 9.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I have no knowledge of what happens elsewhere. I only know what happens locally. Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything? Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm)

georgenorman

25 Jan 22 9.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no knowledge of what happens elsewhere. I only know what happens locally.

Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything?

Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jan 22 9.53pm
Originally posted by georgenorman Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything? Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm) As you have just witnessed that simply isn't true. If I don't know something, and haven't had the time to find out, I say so. Most times I have the time to find out. I am 77 and although pretty active I do need to have a sit down every couple of hours. I know how to research, am quick at doing it and a fast learner with a thirst for knowledge. So if something interests me, I find out about it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 Jan 22 9.53pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything?

Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm)

As you have just witnessed that simply isn't true. If I don't know something, and haven't had the time to find out, I say so.

Most times I have the time to find out. I am 77 and although pretty active I do need to have a sit down every couple of hours. I know how to research, am quick at doing it and a fast learner with a thirst for knowledge. So if something interests me, I find out about it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jan 22 9.21am
BBC DG is calling for a public consultation on the future of the licence fee. I am fine with that as long as it's a proper consultation and not just a PR exercise for luvvies to tell us how great the Beeb is. I guess you would call this a populist move by the BBC as they don't like the idea of their fate being left with Parliament. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 27 Jan 22 9.21am

BBC DG is calling for a public consultation on the future of the licence fee.

I am fine with that as long as it's a proper consultation and not just a PR exercise for luvvies to tell us how great the Beeb is.

I guess you would call this a populist move by the BBC as they don't like the idea of their fate being left with Parliament.

One more point

Pembroke Bristol 27 Jan 22 10.17am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What a surprise. There are always a few outliers with different opinions. They exist in most situations. Nothing new there. Data can be interpreted in a variety of ways. Lies, damn lies and statistics! It's though the majority view which prevails, after listening to all. That a right wing broadcaster promotes such an outlier, whilst others don't, is also hardly new. Nothing to see here, beyond the reinforcing of prejudice. How do you know this individual is an outlier? Have you done a survey? Edited by Pembroke (27 Jan 2022 10.17am)

Pembroke

Bristol 27 Jan 22 10.17am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What a surprise.

There are always a few outliers with different opinions. They exist in most situations. Nothing new there. Data can be interpreted in a variety of ways. Lies, damn lies and statistics! It's though the majority view which prevails, after listening to all.

That a right wing broadcaster promotes such an outlier, whilst others don't, is also hardly new.

Nothing to see here, beyond the reinforcing of prejudice.

How do you know this individual is an outlier?

Have you done a survey?

Edited by Pembroke (27 Jan 2022 10.17am)

HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Jan 22 11.28am
Originally posted by georgenorman Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything? Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm) Can't argue with that Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 27 Jan 22 11.28am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Having no knowledge hasn't stopped you pontificating in the past on practically everything?

Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2022 9.12pm)

Can't argue with that

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jan 22 12.21pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I don't think so. I think it has opened up a debate which might otherwise not have happened. So long as the journalist was genuinely reporting what they heard, and there is no reason to doubt that, then speculating what the implications may, or may not, be, is perfectly reasonable. Not leaving any stone unturned is good journalism. In my opinion. Hmm It seems that the BBC was wrong it's own standard process has confirmed this and now OFCOM will investigate further. I said at the time shoddy journalism and nothing has changed my opinion. [Link] I would have included the BBC's version but that has disappeared from the main news and I can't be bothered to find where they have buried it. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 27 Jan 22 12.21pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think so. I think it has opened up a debate which might otherwise not have happened. So long as the journalist was genuinely reporting what they heard, and there is no reason to doubt that, then speculating what the implications may, or may not, be, is perfectly reasonable. Not leaving any stone unturned is good journalism. In my opinion.

Hmm

It seems that the BBC was wrong it's own standard process has confirmed this and now OFCOM will investigate further. I said at the time shoddy journalism and nothing has changed my opinion.

[Link]

I would have included the BBC's version but that has disappeared from the main news and I can't be bothered to find where they have buried it.

One more point

HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Jan 22 12.23pm
If the BBC get fined they use the public's money, it should come from the executives who made the decision Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 27 Jan 22 12.23pm

If the BBC get fined they use the public's money, it should come from the executives who made the decision

Stirlingsays 27 Jan 22 12.35pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As you have just witnessed that simply isn't true. If I don't know something, and haven't had the time to find out, I say so. Most times I have the time to find out. I am 77 and although pretty active I do need to have a sit down every couple of hours. I know how to research, am quick at doing it and a fast learner with a thirst for knowledge. So if something interests me, I find out about it. Yet apparently, as we have seen with Dr Campbell, you're happy to criticise others for the same thing....even though he's highly qualified in a related field to what he posts about. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 12.36pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

27 Jan 22 12.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As you have just witnessed that simply isn't true. If I don't know something, and haven't had the time to find out, I say so.

Yet apparently, as we have seen with Dr Campbell, you're happy to criticise others for the same thing....even though he's highly qualified in a related field to what he posts about.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 12.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 10.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yet apparently, as we have seen with Dr Campbell, you're happy to criticise others for the same thing....even though he's highly qualified in a related field to what he posts about. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 12.36pm) He isn't qualified in a related field. He was a nurse, who taught in a University after working in A & E. He is not qualified in immunology, research, data analysis or public health. If he was opining on how to manage triage effectively, or how best to teach student nurses then maybe he could claim some expertise. Although as he is now retired his knowledge is probably out of date. That's not criticism. It's stating facts. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 10.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yet apparently, as we have seen with Dr Campbell, you're happy to criticise others for the same thing....even though he's highly qualified in a related field to what he posts about.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 12.36pm)

He isn't qualified in a related field. He was a nurse, who taught in a University after working in A & E. He is not qualified in immunology, research, data analysis or public health.

If he was opining on how to manage triage effectively, or how best to teach student nurses then maybe he could claim some expertise. Although as he is now retired his knowledge is probably out of date.

That's not criticism. It's stating facts.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Teddy Eagle 27 Jan 22 11.24pm
More repeats on the way. [Link]

Teddy Eagle

27 Jan 22 11.24pm

More repeats on the way.

[Link]

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 11.28pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle More repeats on the way. [Link] If they suffer budget cuts what else can they do? Sacking Gary Lineker won't make a lot of difference! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 11.28pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

More repeats on the way.

[Link]

If they suffer budget cuts what else can they do?

Sacking Gary Lineker won't make a lot of difference!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Teddy Eagle 27 Jan 22 11.39pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If they suffer budget cuts what else can they do? Sacking Gary Lineker won't make a lot of difference! They can take adverts. Why should we pay for a load of old toot which has been shown 10 times?

Teddy Eagle

27 Jan 22 11.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If they suffer budget cuts what else can they do?

Sacking Gary Lineker won't make a lot of difference!

They can take adverts.
Why should we pay for a load of old toot which has been shown 10 times?

Stirlingsays 28 Jan 22 6.31am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle He isn't qualified in a related field. He was a nurse, who taught in a University after working in A & E. He is not qualified in immunology, research, data analysis or public health. If he was opining on how to manage triage effectively, or how best to teach student nurses then maybe he could claim some expertise. Although as he is now retired his knowledge is probably out of date. That's not criticism. It's stating facts. Nursing is a related medical field. We are just going to disagree on that. This idea that people shouldn't comment upon something unless they are an 'expert' is ridiculous. Why are you giving opinions on things yourself then? I don't like wars yet should only generals be allowed to comment? Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 6.32am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

28 Jan 22 6.31am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He isn't qualified in a related field. He was a nurse, who taught in a University after working in A & E. He is not qualified in immunology, research, data analysis or public health.

That's not criticism. It's stating facts.

Nursing is a related medical field. We are just going to disagree on that.

This idea that people shouldn't comment upon something unless they are an 'expert' is ridiculous. Why are you giving opinions on things yourself then?

I don't like wars yet should only generals be allowed to comment?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 6.32am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The Dolphin 28 Jan 22 6.53am
The BBC will just show more repeats rather than cut any waste in their "all paid for by the public" liberal left wing bureaucratic bubble. Very important that they don't sack anyone who might need a job doing nothing or anyone else they can help steal from the taxpayer. I tell you - you think Boris is bad - well, he is an amateur compared to the crap this lot get up to. They would not get jobs in the real world most of them. They are an absolute joke which is why the BBC needs defunding until it can do its job properly and make us proud of a public broadcaster.

The Dolphin

28 Jan 22 6.53am

The BBC will just show more repeats rather than cut any waste in their "all paid for by the public" liberal left wing bureaucratic bubble.
Very important that they don't sack anyone who might need a job doing nothing or anyone else they can help steal from the taxpayer.
I tell you - you think Boris is bad - well, he is an amateur compared to the crap this lot get up to.
They would not get jobs in the real world most of them.
They are an absolute joke which is why the BBC needs defunding until it can do its job properly and make us proud of a public broadcaster.

Teddy Eagle 28 Jan 22 9.04am
One way of saving money would be to stop making nature programmes. Unless they find a leopard with a rifle or a gazelle doing a Steve McQueen on a motorbike there isn’t anything left to see.

Teddy Eagle

28 Jan 22 9.04am

One way of saving money would be to stop making nature programmes. Unless they find a leopard with a rifle or a gazelle doing a Steve McQueen on a motorbike there isn’t anything left to see.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 9.11am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Nursing is a related medical field. We are just going to disagree on that. This idea that people shouldn't comment upon something unless they are an 'expert' is ridiculous. Why are you giving opinions on things yourself then? I don't like wars yet should only generals be allowed to comment? Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 6.32am) I didn't suggest nursing isn't a "related medical field". Only that he is not an expert. When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer my urologist passed me on to an oncologist. Why? Because he isn't an expert in how to treat cancer. Of course everyone can have, and express, an opinion. It's how seriously we should take those opinions. People who make YouTube videos using their title to suggest they are a qualified expert are at risk of being accused of deception. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 9.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nursing is a related medical field. We are just going to disagree on that.

This idea that people shouldn't comment upon something unless they are an 'expert' is ridiculous. Why are you giving opinions on things yourself then?

I don't like wars yet should only generals be allowed to comment?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 6.32am)

I didn't suggest nursing isn't a "related medical field". Only that he is not an expert. When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer my urologist passed me on to an oncologist. Why? Because he isn't an expert in how to treat cancer.

Of course everyone can have, and express, an opinion. It's how seriously we should take those opinions. People who make YouTube videos using their title to suggest they are a qualified expert are at risk of being accused of deception.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jan 22 9.14am
Originally posted by The Dolphin The BBC will just show more repeats rather than cut any waste in their "all paid for by the public" liberal left wing bureaucratic bubble. Very important that they don't sack anyone who might need a job doing nothing or anyone else they can help steal from the taxpayer. I tell you - you think Boris is bad - well, he is an amateur compared to the crap this lot get up to. They would not get jobs in the real world most of them. They are an absolute joke which is why the BBC needs defunding until it can do its job properly and make us proud of a public broadcaster. I suspect you are correct. There are too many sacred cows in the BBC so rather than cutting waste they will reduce quality. BBC 3 is now back on Freeview at an estimated cost of £80m pa. This was a channel aimed at young people but due to low ratings (because young people don't watch traditional TV) they took it off air and put it on the internet. Apparently its rating on the internet were okay and they were reaching their target audience. Now some genius has decided to put it back to Freeview why do they think it will work this time? £80m down the drain still it's only the taxpayers money. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 28 Jan 22 9.14am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I suspect you are correct. There are too many sacred cows in the BBC so rather than cutting waste they will reduce quality.

BBC 3 is now back on Freeview at an estimated cost of £80m pa. This was a channel aimed at young people but due to low ratings (because young people don't watch traditional TV) they took it off air and put it on the internet.

Apparently its rating on the internet were okay and they were reaching their target audience. Now some genius has decided to put it back to Freeview why do they think it will work this time?

£80m down the drain still it's only the taxpayers money.

One more point

Stirlingsays 28 Jan 22 9.36am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I didn't suggest nursing isn't a "related medical field". Only that he is not an expert. When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer my urologist passed me on to an oncologist. Why? Because he isn't an expert in how to treat cancer. Of course everyone can have, and express, an opinion. It's how seriously we should take those opinions. People who make YouTube videos using their title to suggest they are a qualified expert are at risk of being accused of deception. Please get in contact with Campbell if his behaviour concerns you so much. Personally I haven't seen him make any claims to which he isn't entitled. Nor has he made any inaccurate claims.....the fact that he isn't stressing what you want him to stress is irrelevant. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 9.36am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

28 Jan 22 9.36am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Please get in contact with Campbell if his behaviour concerns you so much.

Personally I haven't seen him make any claims to which he isn't entitled.

Nor has he made any inaccurate claims.....the fact that he isn't stressing what you want him to stress is irrelevant.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2022 9.36am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

becky over the moon 28 Jan 22 10.41am
The discussion about Campbell is covered - more correctly - on the Coronavirus thread. Please keep it to there as he has nothing really to do with the BBC A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 28 Jan 22 10.41am

The discussion about Campbell is covered - more correctly - on the Coronavirus thread. Please keep it to there as he has nothing really to do with the BBC

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 12.39pm
Originally posted by becky The discussion about Campbell is covered - more correctly - on the Coronavirus thread. Please keep it to there as he has nothing really to do with the BBC Thank you. I completely agree and will. Why it was introduced here is also a mystery to me. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 12.39pm

Originally posted by becky

The discussion about Campbell is covered - more correctly - on the Coronavirus thread. Please keep it to there as he has nothing really to do with the BBC

Thank you. I completely agree and will. Why it was introduced here is also a mystery to me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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