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Quote Johnny Eagles at 24 May 2014 2.52pm
Just listened to Any Questions on Radio 4. The response of all three "main" parties to the questions raised by UKIP's success was the same. People who vote UKIP are basically a bunch of idiot racists who don't know what's good for them. Look at London, where everyone loves immigrants and diversity. If only the rest of the country could be as enlightened as London. If they were able to elevate themselves to our level of political debate they might understand. F*ck you, Angela Eagle, and your charlatan Labour party. I am voting UKIP at the next general election because I despise all of you. Not because I am a racist idiot who doesn't know what's good for him. Because I wish to show you the contempt you clearly show towards all but the small handful of swing voters in non-safe seats. F*ck you all. Rant over.
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| The White Horse 24 May 14 3.18pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 24 May 2014 2.52pm
Just listened to Any Questions on Radio 4. The response of all three "main" parties to the questions raised by UKIP's success was the same. People who vote UKIP are basically a bunch of idiot racists who don't know what's good for them. Look at London, where everyone loves immigrants and diversity. If only the rest of the country could be as enlightened as London. If they were able to elevate themselves to our level of political debate they might understand. F*ck you, Angela Eagle, and your charlatan Labour party. I am voting UKIP at the next general election because I despise all of you. Not because I am a racist idiot who doesn't know what's good for him. Because I wish to show you the contempt you clearly show towards all but the small handful of swing voters in non-safe seats. F*ck you all. Rant over. One fewer vote for the Tories So Labour will be the largest party and your feeling of frustration will be multiplied. I'm sure you can console yourself in the fact that Farage enjoys a pint at lunchtime ;-)
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| Stirlingsays 24 May 14 3.32pm |
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You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
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| luckybuck 24 May 14 4.10pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that. Edited by luckybuck (24 May 2014 4.17pm)
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| The White Horse 24 May 14 5.52pm |
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Quote luckybuck at 24 May 2014 4.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely.
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| luckybuck 24 May 14 5.59pm |
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Quote The White Horse at 24 May 2014 5.52pm
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely. That's true actually. Thwarted by the same first past the post system that many on the left wanted rid of the and right wanted to keep. Ironic. So what would you say the options are if Labour don't get an overall majority. A Lab-Lib coalition? The LibDems are hardly flavour of the month but will have a few MPs at least.
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| The White Horse 24 May 14 6.05pm |
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Quote luckybuck at 24 May 2014 5.59pm
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely. That's true actually. Thwarted by the same first past the post system that many on the left wanted rid of the and right wanted to keep. Ironic. So what would you say the options are if Labour don't get an overall majority. A Lab-Lib coalition? The LibDems are hardly flavour of the month but will have a few MPs at least. That's exactly what I think will happen. Labour will be a dozen or so seats short of a majority, the Lib Dems will 20 or 30 something MPs and it will be the only coalition possible (with Labour refusing to team up with UKIP or the Tories). 5 years of struggling away for the Lib/Lab coalition, the electorate ditches them to give the Tories another crack in 2020, which they'll blow away privatising stuff as usual because they don't have any other policies.
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| luckybuck 24 May 14 6.13pm |
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Quote The White Horse at 24 May 2014 6.05pm
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely. That's true actually. Thwarted by the same first past the post system that many on the left wanted rid of the and right wanted to keep. Ironic. So what would you say the options are if Labour don't get an overall majority. A Lab-Lib coalition? The LibDems are hardly flavour of the month but will have a few MPs at least. That's exactly what I think will happen. Labour will be a dozen or so seats short of a majority, the Lib Dems will 20 or 30 something MPs and it will be the only coalition possible (with Labour refusing to team up with UKIP or the Tories). 5 years of struggling away for the Lib/Lab coalition, the electorate ditches them to give the Tories another crack in 2020, which they'll blow away privatising stuff as usual because they don't have any other policies. Sounds about right. Wasn't there talk of Conservatives running under Conservative AND UKIP in the genral election though? Assuming that's even legal or workable. The tories of course want to stay in power but to what extent will UKIP be willing to work with them? They'll will clearly want something out of it. Cameron has a problem on Europe in that people simply wont believe that he'll offer an in-out referundum. It's reached a point where he almost needs some kind of UKIP seal of approval.
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| Stirlingsays 24 May 14 6.34pm |
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Anything but Labour. After their ten years they just don't deserve another go so soon. Borrowed on surpluses, didn't build anything like enough houses for the increase in population they allowed in though idealism (if you increase the population you need to build houses and infrastructure to accommodate it...And they didn't). They stole the Tories clothes but still managed to leave office like every Labour administration before them.....With an economy in a mess.
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| matt_himself Matataland 24 May 14 6.41pm |
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Quote luckybuck at 24 May 2014 6.13pm
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely. That's true actually. Thwarted by the same first past the post system that many on the left wanted rid of the and right wanted to keep. Ironic. So what would you say the options are if Labour don't get an overall majority. A Lab-Lib coalition? The LibDems are hardly flavour of the month but will have a few MPs at least. That's exactly what I think will happen. Labour will be a dozen or so seats short of a majority, the Lib Dems will 20 or 30 something MPs and it will be the only coalition possible (with Labour refusing to team up with UKIP or the Tories). 5 years of struggling away for the Lib/Lab coalition, the electorate ditches them to give the Tories another crack in 2020, which they'll blow away privatising stuff as usual because they don't have any other policies. Sounds about right. Wasn't there talk of Conservatives running under Conservative AND UKIP in the genral election though? Assuming that's even legal or workable. The tories of course want to stay in power but to what extent will UKIP be willing to work with them? They'll will clearly want something out of it. Cameron has a problem on Europe in that people simply wont believe that he'll offer an in-out referundum. It's reached a point where he almost needs some kind of UKIP seal of approval.
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| luckybuck 24 May 14 6.47pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 24 May 2014 6.41pm
Quote luckybuck at 24 May 2014 6.13pm
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Quote The White Horse at 24 May 2014 5.52pm
Quote luckybuck at 24 May 2014 4.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 3.32pm
You speak too soon Horsey.....I see a pack. If they choose to make a pack with the 'useful idiots' that are the Liberals then I fail to see how they don't make one with Ukip. If they want the chance of having....a broadly conservative majority they have little choice.
That being the case dare anyone even entertain for a second the monsterous possibility of a Labour-UKIP government? At least we'd all be unhappy with that.
UKIP will probably only have a few MPs, which is hardly a recipe for coalition talks. They'd need to have a number greater than the difference between Labour and the Tories to be in a good position, which is pretty unlikely. That's true actually. Thwarted by the same first past the post system that many on the left wanted rid of the and right wanted to keep. Ironic. So what would you say the options are if Labour don't get an overall majority. A Lab-Lib coalition? The LibDems are hardly flavour of the month but will have a few MPs at least. That's exactly what I think will happen. Labour will be a dozen or so seats short of a majority, the Lib Dems will 20 or 30 something MPs and it will be the only coalition possible (with Labour refusing to team up with UKIP or the Tories). 5 years of struggling away for the Lib/Lab coalition, the electorate ditches them to give the Tories another crack in 2020, which they'll blow away privatising stuff as usual because they don't have any other policies. Sounds about right. Wasn't there talk of Conservatives running under Conservative AND UKIP in the genral election though? Assuming that's even legal or workable. The tories of course want to stay in power but to what extent will UKIP be willing to work with them? They'll will clearly want something out of it. Cameron has a problem on Europe in that people simply wont believe that he'll offer an in-out referundum. It's reached a point where he almost needs some kind of UKIP seal of approval.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 24 May 14 6.47pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2014 6.34pm
Anything but Labour. After their ten years they just don't deserve another go so soon. Borrowed on surpluses, didn't build anything like enough houses for the increase in population they allowed in though idealism (if you increase the population you need to build houses and infrastructure to accommodate it...And they didn't). They stole the Tories clothes but still managed to leave office like every Labour administration before them.....With an economy in a mess.
I don't honestly know why I even have to outline this. Our economy is so unsustainable. So f*cking unsustainable that we know there will be another crash in the foreseeable future, and when that happens a bail-out may well not be an option with the current deficit. Historically, the only real way of avoiding these fiscal crashes is to have large surpluses as the Scandinavian nations have, or to go full-Marxist. Don't just blame Gordon Brown and the Nasty Left as if it was all his fault, he merely orchestrated the inevitable.
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