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Originally posted by Lyons550
Indeed. A few in the Labour Party don't like Corbyn making labour a party for workers. c***s
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Originally posted by elgrande
To be fair you are not wrong,but we don't know how much the fares would be now if it was still British Rail. No much change, except it seems to have gotten more expensive proportionally. Transportation is a necessary functionality and it should be at least controlled by the state. We could resolve a lot of the problems of traffic congestion with decent affordable (or even fully subsidised) public transport - and everyone would benefit. Employees would find it easier and cheaper to get to work, businesses wouldn't need to provide their own extensive car parking options, traffic congestion would reduce and they'd be less pollution. Free (or very cheap), decent, public transport for all. Its absurd that it costs less to drive into town than it does to get the f**king bus. The only losers would be car manufacturers, maybe.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Indeed. A few in the Labour Party don't like Corbyn making labour a party for workers. c***s The New Labour faction. The same people the people who are complaining about Corbyn not representing, complained about.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
No much change, except it seems to have gotten more expensive proportionally. Transportation is a necessary functionality and it should be at least controlled by the state. We could resolve a lot of the problems of traffic congestion with decent affordable (or even fully subsidised) public transport - and everyone would benefit. Employees would find it easier and cheaper to get to work, businesses wouldn't need to provide their own extensive car parking options, traffic congestion would reduce and they'd be less pollution. Free (or very cheap), decent, public transport for all. Its absurd that it costs less to drive into town than it does to get the f**king bus. The only losers would be car manufacturers, maybe. But who subsidises it jamie,if it's the government then ultimately we do.
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Originally posted by elgrande
To be fair you are not wrong,but we don't know how much the fares would be now if it was still British Rail. The slam door trains were always filthy but privatisation started years after in 97 when newer automatic door trains were everywhere. It would've been a waste of time cleaning those filthy slam door trains. I don't notice the difference between automatic door trains pre and post 97. Punctuality on the other hand..... I do remember trains being late a lot more. Any slam doors still about? Last one I went on was West Ham play off final in Cardiff. Always a bit of a novelty what with going from Norwood, up over the thamesljnk line I think and then somehow over westwards.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The slam door trains were always filthy but privatisation started years after in 97 when newer automatic door trains were everywhere. It would've been a waste of time cleaning those filthy slam door trains. I don't notice the difference between automatic door trains pre and post 97. Punctuality on the other hand..... I do remember trains being late a lot more. Any slam doors still about? Last one I went on was West Ham play off final in Cardiff. Always a bit of a novelty what with going from Norwood, up over the thamesljnk line I think and then somehow over westwards. But you could also smoke on many of them, which was a plus. They phased them out on the Waterloo to Reading line fairly recently (last 10 years or so). They used to have the little passageway with the compartments off them, with the sliding doors. Straight out of Cracker and Prime Suspect.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I can't remember the detail but when that was debated on here didn't it turn out to be an incredibly misleading stat? Quite right it was proved to be a load of crap as is all of Terry Christian's biased editorials and programs. A real Labour merchant and in a real Labour rag!
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Originally posted by elgrande
But then I don't use public transport that much,once a fortnight from Bedford to norwood junction,which costs £28,which let's be fair is not a lot. That stinks. As it does on the post midweek match at Norwood junction to East Croydon with only 4 carriages. I avoid it now. Fackin dangerous, people crammed in like they're being exported to Auschwitz and the connections after it a cr&p. A long wait in the cold. Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 May 2017 5.20pm)
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Wouldn't be at all surprised to find out it was intentional. Test the water with the manifesto ideas, anything which goes down like a lead balloon you remove and claim it was never in there in the first place
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Originally posted by elgrande
To be fair you are not wrong,but we don't know how much the fares would be now if it was still British Rail. When people still think of Thatcher as 'patriotic' i just laugh. All that privatisation, selling the country's crown jewels, and then deliberately messing up and interfering in the housing market for which the effects are felt up to this present day and will be far into the future. Sorry, kids that will be renting forever and having to pay through the nose for it. It was the 80's. We had barking mad, nasty and greedy people in power.
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Hehe
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Originally posted by croydon proud
George osborne increased the national debt more in 5 years than labour did in 13 years ! Thanks nigel farage for confirming that on lbc,,,,,,,just putting it out there for all the blue noses! How many lies did she tell! Good that she went for the Christian angle, means all the right wingers on here who moan about people believing in 'sky fairies' and must be unhinged cant possibly vote for her now can they?
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Originally posted by croydon proud
George osborne increased the national debt more in 5 years than labour did in 13 years ! Thanks nigel farage for confirming that on lbc,,,,,,,just putting it out there for all the blue noses! Yes, that's why it's called a debt spiral. If you wanted the debt cut or to worsen slower then you'd have needed deeper cuts and a budget surplus, or big increases in government spending but with less global demand than the time you mention under Labour. The world was in economic recession. For how long and how much do you think that increase in government spending would've worked? The multiplier effect of building public facilities isn't as beneficial as trade.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes, that's why it's called a debt spiral. If you wanted the debt cut or to worsen slower then you'd have needed deeper cuts and a budget surplus, or big increases in government spending but with less global demand than the time you mention under Labour. The world was in economic recession. For how long and how much do you think that increase in government spending would've worked? The multiplier effect of building public facilities isn't as beneficial as trade. You've not heard about the national bank to be set up to help business and entrepreneurial start ups or the investment in manufacturing products towards clean energy. Isn't just 'public facilities ' that'll get the investment it needs.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Was doing ok until it got to 25% corporation tax. I elsewhere in Europe it's almost 30% but land business rents are far more expensive in Britain. Is this across the board or are there supposed to be different levels? If this forced small businesses to close it'd stop all Corbyn's policies. He's never going to be PM so it doesn't matter anyway. He could provide May with her favourites though seeing as she can't create any of her own. (could be good to cherry pick the best of all parties IMO) Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 May 2017 8.31pm) It could be argued that Labour under Corbyn provided good enough opposition to force several u turns (strong and stable)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You've not heard about the national bank to be set up to help business and entrepreneurial start ups or the investment in manufacturing products towards clean energy. Isn't just 'public facilities ' that'll get the investment it needs. Certainly missed a trick not investing in clean energy industry.
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