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hedgehog50  Croydon 04 Jun 17 9.34am |
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Originally posted by laddo
A lot of what Corbyn says gets twisted. The shoot to kill policy is obviously correct when people are in immediate danger, which is what corbyn said. However, he merely suggested that it's best for this scum to face the justice of our law courts. Why? Well firstly they want to die. Why give them the satisfaction? Secondly, they hold out justice in contempt. This scum being sent down by a jury which contains women would absolutely crush them. It's like when corbyn was criticised for saying it would have been better to arrest Bin Laden. The bloodthirsty were frothing at the mouth with rage but there's no doubt, in terms of punishment Bin Laden would have hated being put in front of judge and jury more than dying. It comes down to justice. If you feel killing a suicide bomber is 'justice' then think carefully about their title - suicide bomber. The attackers last night knew the fake explosives would increase the likelihood of them being taken out. Sadly, they will never get their day in court although the police were absolutely right to take the course of action they did. But he said a shoot to kill policy could be “quite dangerous" and “counterproductive”, warning that it could lead to “war on the streets” - this clearly shows the appeasement aspect of his stance. "War on the streets" indeed, that is precisely what we have, regardless of whether we shoot the fascists or not.
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 lefty27 Online ipswich 04 Jun 17 9.40am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
But he said a shoot to kill policy could be “quite dangerous" and “counterproductive”, warning that it could lead to “war on the streets” - this clearly shows the appeasement aspect of his stance. "War on the streets" indeed, that is precisely what we have, regardless of whether we shoot the fascists or not. Shoot to kill, Charles Mendez springs to mind.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jun 17 9.50am |
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Calling for people not to debate issues on a public forum used for debate doesn't make any sense. If you think debating these issues is disrespectful then don't be apart of the debate.
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| 7mins In the bush 04 Jun 17 9.53am |
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We can't stop them.
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| legaleagle 04 Jun 17 9.54am |
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That's your opinion,Stirling Politicians are in an even more public forum.Even they,except s***e like Nuttall,show some respect for the dead rather than point scoring. Anyone who thinks any political leader of any party wouldn't have backed the three attackers being shot to kill if necessary (as it was) to save lives last night is living in a fantasy world of bias. Edited by legaleagle (04 Jun 2017 9.59am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 17 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Calling for people not to debate issues on a public forum used for debate doesn't make any sense. If you think debating these issues is disrespectful then don't be apart of the debate. Unless children are victims.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jun 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
That's your opinion. Politicians are in an even more public forum.Even they,except s***e like Nuttall,show some respect for the dead I agree that he should probably suspend his campaign. Still his platform is actually built upon taking some action on this issue unlike the others so I expect he wants to push that. Taking action would actually do something about this cancer whilst platitudes are just that.
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| lefty27 Online ipswich 04 Jun 17 10.01am |
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This is not a political debate this is titled 'London Bridge', it happens to include a few misinformed people's opinions.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 17 10.05am |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
If this event had happened in the Outer f'kn Hebrides Willo would've posted similar. Yes I would have posted that my thoughts were with all those affected and condemned the atrocity in the same manner. The fact that I have been criticized in such an appalling way speaks more about those who made these comments than 'Yours Truly'. Now let's move on and concentrate on the subject matter.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jun 17 10.06am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Unless children are victims. No one closes down the newspapers or radio or television. No one should be told that they shouldn't express their non violent views if they want to.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 17 10.06am |
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Originally posted by lefty27
This is not a political debate this is titled 'London Bridge', it happens to include a few misinformed people's opinions.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jun 17 10.08am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
But he said a shoot to kill policy could be “quite dangerous" and “counterproductive”, warning that it could lead to “war on the streets” - this clearly shows the appeasement aspect of his stance. "War on the streets" indeed, that is precisely what we have, regardless of whether we shoot the fascists or not. I think it depends on what you mean by a shoot to kill policy. Police always shoot to kill in the UK and always have. A shoot to kill policy is about when you can shoot i.e. being able to fire on a suspect when there is no threat to life or policies like the kind used in the stockwell shooting
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