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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 10 Oct 17 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by Pikester

It does sound like the Borneo situation is treating the birth of a child with the same level of feeling as receiving an extra copy of a DVD from Amazon at Christmas.

I guess a refund or credit note is out of the equation

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 2.02pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Pikester

It does sound like the Borneo situation is treating the birth of a child with the same level of feeling as receiving an extra copy of a DVD from Amazon at Christmas.

Nope, it's a family affair. I guess you may not have come across people that have different mores. This couple conceived to give the child to their cousin. You had to see how much joy it gave to all concerned.

Many of the people I interview, e.g. from the Philippines in particular, are not earning money for themselves but for their extended family. Nuclear families are only one way of living.

 

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 10 Oct 17 2.15pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Oh they all knew about me. Trust me on that one . But yes the desire to know can be all consuming . It peaks on the week running up to my birthday and then it subsides again. Fundamentally it won't change anything and the family would never accept me but I am curious as to whether I look like him and things like inherited illness and health problems . Also now I have children of my own I wonder about their characteristics and looks and who they get some of them from. Only natural I suppose

Your mum never lived in Mitcham did she Michaela...
Just trying to be witty,please don't take offence,and if I have I apologise.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Well they practised cannibalism too in Borneo not so long ago.
I thought legaleagle was the daftest poster on here, but maple has probably overtaken him/her/indeterminate.

An English bloke called Brooke stamped out cannibalism during the 19th century. It made a brief come-back when the Japanese occupied Borneo during WW2. Nobody is saying the Brits encouraged that but...

You see, your attitudes are based on very old and parochial information that have formed the basis of your prejudices. You need to get down with the young people like me.

 

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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 10 Oct 17 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

Your mum never lived in Mitcham did she Michaela...
Just trying to be witty,please don't take offence,and if I have I apologise.

No. Your off the hook on that one

 


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View Pikester's Profile Pikester Flag Worthing 10 Oct 17 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nope, it's a family affair. I guess you may not have come across people that have different mores. This couple conceived to give the child to their cousin. You had to see how much joy it gave to all concerned.

Many of the people I interview, e.g. from the Philippines in particular, are not earning money for themselves but for their extended family. Nuclear families are only one way of living.

What you actually said was " I had mates in Borneo who gave away a child to their cousins because they had plenty and the cousins didn't. "

I don't just sit in a room with other white people shaking my head at these whimsical darkies you know...

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Pikester

What you actually said was " I had mates in Borneo who gave away a child to their cousins because they had plenty and the cousins didn't. "

I don't just sit in a room with other white people shaking my head at these whimsical darkies you know...

I know what I said and it was in line with my later post.

 

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View Pikester's Profile Pikester Flag Worthing 10 Oct 17 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I know what I said and it was in line with my later post.

Good - so you can see that you made it sound like a fairly trivial transaction.

Apology accepted.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Pikester

Good - so you can see that you made it sound like a fairly trivial transaction.

Apology accepted.

If that is how you choose to read it

Amazing how often people on here don't ask the second question, just leap in with their conjecture.

I have to say by the way that when I learned about the arrangement I was totally amazed. I met up with the couple on the way to visit their child. I assumed it was a short term arrangement at first. Then it surprised me that the child called the natural parents its parents but only saw them every few weeks. It was a lesson in not prejudging and looking at everything through your own lens.

And from this I take that a loving family does not have to mean lots of attention from your natural parents.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Oct 17 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think that is the common sense approach. However, it is something far easier to hear than live for some people.

I'm sure.
I met my mother again when I was 18. I have a fairly distant relationship with her. The reality is often far less appealing than the mystery.

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 10 Oct 17 2.45pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

An English bloke called Brooke stamped out cannibalism during the 19th century. It made a brief come-back when the Japanese occupied Borneo during WW2. Nobody is saying the Brits encouraged that but...

You see, your attitudes are based on very old and parochial information that have formed the basis of your prejudices. You need to get down with the young people like me.

That's the problem with people like you, just because someone has a different view point to you, they are being prejudiced. I have given reasoned debate (largely ignored by you and NG) on why I think we have been to quick to accept the same sex argument, in that not enough is known about the long term psychological effects, I have also stated that in the event of no nurturing "normal" environment being available, that same sex parenting is a viable solution, but way more support from social services involving a constructive critique of how to balance the child's development needs to be happening.

But because we are to scared (I'm not by the way) to dismantle any ones "entitled" attitude we won't insist on it, and yet foster parents have to be trained up the ying yang, but any old tom and phil, or lisa and tara can apply to have a new borne ?

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 10 Oct 17 2.48pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

I guess a refund or credit note is out of the equation

Reminds me of a story.

We had a mate who did the go to Thailand and find a young bride.
Well he found a young lady,and after a couple of years(And getting her pregnant in thailand) he finally managed to get her a visa to live here.
Anyway big thing in the pub Steve's bringing his new Thai wife into the pub.
No bare in mind he had been bigging her up for months..so we were expecting drop dead gorgeous.
Well in he comes one Sunday morning,me and my mate taff had been on it big time.
So as he walks in with her,I am literally just taking a gulp of my Guinness my mate taff shouts out "f*** me Steve i hope you kept the receipt",well my mouthful of Guinness went everywhere.
I looked round my god she was like ting ting from the fast show,don't think I have ever laughed so much.

 


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