It must be hard for them.

Trying to save criminals from deportation and deciding what constitutes a woman at the same time a choosing a lame duck leader.

LOL. Don't forget cheering on the victory of the IRA's political wing in Southern Ireland.

Labour are on course to become nothing more than a Progressive protest movement rather than an actual political party who want to form a Government.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

And a white bloke with a Knighthood. Wonderful stuff. They are going to implode as they turn on each other.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Funny you should say that. I made a po-faced sanctimonious comment that democracy needs an effective opposition to be healthy and a hopeless imploding labour party is no answer.

However I suspect that post Brexit the ruling party's most effective opposition will be itself. All the usual fault lines barely covered by "unity" over Brexit and post landslide euphoria will be exposed and widen. In a declining economy with diminishing returns there won't he the funding to please both the new tory northern set and the traditional heartland. I think we all know which will have to give way...

It might be trite but it is having an incredible impact on UK public life.

And this notion of 'self-identification' seems to be almost fantastical.

From what I can make out, and I am desperate for somebody to clarify the position for me and if neccessary put me right, if I wake up tomorrow and decide that I am a woman then under these criteria I can fully expect to be treated accordingly. No ifs, no buts, nobody able to question and enjoying the full protection of the law accordingly. I guess I could insist on seeing a Gynecologist, expect full access to all female-only spaces and generally spend hours faffing about in shoe shops before leaving with nothing to show for it and nobody would dare to perhaps suggest I was taking the piss?

Now I accept that the last part of that is a tad flippant but is it any less valid than this almost Emperors New Clothes acceptance that these people wish to make law?

Because if my definition of it is true then we might as well just accept that Western Civilisation is over. Because we not only through the looking glass but fully agreeing that 2+2=5.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I reckon if Keir Starmer decides to identify as a woman he'll wrap the leadership contest up tomorrow.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So someone who is biologically born one sex can self identify as another and we are supposed to celebrate this. However I noticed that recently there were a couple of cases of white people who self identify as black and the same cheerleaders, well, they weren't cheering in fact they were complaining.

I don't get the logic of that. If we go down the road of people being able to make up who they want to be surely that must include race as well as gender.

Sigh.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Feb 2020 8.09am)

One more point

I heard some "expert" say there are 7 genders? I have no idea what they are, to me there are 3 that I could recognise:

Male
Female
Intersex (both male and female organs)

Everything else is just a variation of those. Gender neutral is a load of rubbish.

One more point

Yes, unfortunately you would have to consider this (intersex) a rare and varied type of mutation.

Ali G has a lot to answer for