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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Dec 20 1.13pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Just scum Tom.

It's because they come from deprived backgrounds.
Everyone knows you can never blame anyone like that. They just need a bit of positive discrimination.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Dec 20 1.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's because they come from deprived backgrounds.
Everyone knows you can never blame anyone like that. They just need a bit of positive discrimination.

Wonder how many on here don’t come from a deprived background?

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Dec 20 1.26pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's because they come from deprived backgrounds.
Everyone knows you can never blame anyone like that. They just need a bit of positive discrimination.

Yes, it's our failure for not nurturing and educating them well enough. We should have given them more free stuff, then distasteful incidences like this would never happen.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Dec 20 1.26pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wonder how many on here don’t come from a deprived background?

I doubt there will be too many silver spoons.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Dec 20 1.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I doubt there will be too many silver spoons.

They’d have only been tainted by all the heroin.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Dec 20 1.33pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They’d have only been tainted by all the heroin.

Couldn't afford heroin in my day, had to make do with grit from the box in the street.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Dec 20 1.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Couldn't afford heroin in my day, had to make do with grit from the box in the street.

We had a different problem - since everyone was a dealer there was no one to sell it to. Even with Green Shield stamps it was hard to shift.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Dec 20 1.41pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

We had a different problem - since everyone was a dealer there was no one to sell it to. Even with Green Shield stamps it was hard to shift.

You had to eat it like a sherbert dip and your mum would stand over you to make sure you didn't leave any. There were kids in Africa who would gladly take it.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Dec 20 1.48pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

You had to eat it like a sherbert dip and your mum would stand over you to make sure you didn't leave any. There were kids in Africa who would gladly take it.

Luckily it was very moreish.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Dec 20 1.50pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Luckily it was very moreish.

 


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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 06 Dec 20 2.50pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I doubt there will be too many silver spoons.

More Wetherspoons than Silver spoons

 

Cannonball Flag High in the Ozarks. 06 Dec 20 5.29pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

All this over the death of a vicious, serially dangerous, violent drug pusher. These people really know how to pick their heroes.

Taking the knee is a gesture of subservience. There are better ways to acknowledge respect for the lives of others.

Spot on !

And nobody remarked about the Derby player who stood and gave the racist "black power salute"

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Dec 20 5.43pm

Rooney's taking the moral high ground. That's nice.

 


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eritheagle Flag Erith 06 Dec 20 5.51pm

I just don't understand the reason why they are still doing it.
The initial gesture was because what happened in America but that seems a very long time ago now and also a very long way from home.

If it's cos of perceived injustices in football then I'm confused.
I support a team that has had 8 black players in starting 11 at times this season and the 3 top earners are black. I've only heard one racist comment in the 500 plus games I've been to. So I don't see that much of a problem there.

I think now it has reached an impasse and perhaps needs someone to say enough cos it's lost it's initial impact and seems like going through the motions.

At least it gives SSN and Talksh1te a chance to move on from banging on bout the Ferdinand/Terry incident from 9 years ago to discussing this for the next fortnight!

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Dec 20 6.27pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Rooney's taking the moral high ground. That's nice.

HA

 

jeeagles Flag 06 Dec 20 6.40pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

All this over the death of a vicious, serially dangerous, violent drug pusher. These people really know how to pick their heroes.

Taking the knee is a gesture of subservience. There are better ways to acknowledge respect for the lives of others.

Its unsurprising the football club with one of the highest levels of BAME residents, massive rates of crime, and massive rates of poverty, and are showing the biggest amount of opposition BLM.

They are being universilly condemned and no one is asking why they did it. Clinton Morrison is the only person I've heard so far saying "all lives matter" and he wants to go and speak to them.

Everyone else just sits in their ivory towers in middle England. They've got no idea what goes on in places like Bermondsey, they might go to Brixton now and again for novelty value.

None of these outraged social commentators can work out why people in high crime areas are so outraged about the level of tributes to the death of a criminal in some backwater American Town, yet they continually call for social cohesion.

Millwall supporters represent the most disenfranchised demographic in our society.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Dec 20 6.41pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

I just don't understand the reason why they are still doing it.
The initial gesture was because what happened in America but that seems a very long time ago now and also a very long way from home.

If it's cos of perceived injustices in football then I'm confused.
I support a team that has had 8 black players in starting 11 at times this season and the 3 top earners are black. I've only heard one racist comment in the 500 plus games I've been to. So I don't see that much of a problem there.

I think now it has reached an impasse and perhaps needs someone to say enough cos it's lost it's initial impact and seems like going through the motions.

At least it gives SSN and Talksh1te a chance to move on from banging on bout the Ferdinand/Terry incident from 9 years ago to discussing this for the next fortnight!

The rationale is that there are general societal biases against black people. The fact that middle class people don’t see it much is largely because of who they mix with, where they live and work and their social milieu. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

I will say what I always say. Ask your black mates how it feels to be black. Especially any who aren’t middle class.

So football is trying to take a lead. I didn’t see these complaints relating to Kick It Out, so maybe the image is making people feel uncomfortable. I think that’s the point, it is meant to.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Dec 2020 9.29pm)

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Dec 20 6.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The rationale is that there are general societal biases against black people. The fact that middle class people don’t see it much is largely because of who they mix with, where they live and work and their social milieu. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

I will say what I always say. Ask your black mates how it feels to be black. Especially any who aren’t middle class.

So football is trying to take a lead. I didn’t see these complaints relating to Kick It Out, so maybe the image is making people feel uncomfortable. I think that’s the point.

Who knew?

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Dec 20 6.59pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The rationale is that there are general societal biases against black people. The fact that middle class people don’t see it much is largely because of who they mix with, where they live and work and their social milieu. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

I will say what I always say. Ask your black mates how it feels to be black. Especially any who aren’t middle class.

So football is trying to take a lead. I didn’t see these complaints relating to Kick It Out, so maybe the image is making people feel uncomfortable. I think that’s the point.

The image to me, of kneeling is subservience, it is not racial.

It is like Hitler going past and the masses saluting him in their subservience with the fascist salute.

I get why this happened and have no problem as a one-off, but it is now a political statement and has no place in sport.


 

eritheagle Flag Erith 06 Dec 20 7.02pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The rationale is that there are general societal biases against black people. The fact that middle class people don’t see it much is largely because of who they mix with, where they live and work and their social milieu. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

I will say what I always say. Ask your black mates how it feels to be black. Especially any who aren’t middle class.

So football is trying to take a lead. I didn’t see these complaints relating to Kick It Out, so maybe the image is making people feel uncomfortable. I think that’s the point.

I'm working class and work with people of all colour and creed. I'm also engaged to someone who is not black but is BAME.

I take on board your points but i feel it's just getting too much at the moment especially when I watch/listen to channels that are meant to be discussing sport rather than social issues every 2 mins.
It's lost that initial shock value which concentrate people's minds and is now causing more divisions rather than harmony.
The message should be about equality and not rammed down our throats every 2 minutes.
Kick it Out had it right just like the Rainbow laces this weekend.

 

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