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Originally posted by Robk
Let’s hope a clever journalist gets hold of this...and digs up the REAL reason....I can only think the main witness who we know pulled out...unreal really... If only his father had "pulled out" no one would be having to work this sh1t out.
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Reek's of payoff.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
When a crime has a conviction rate < 1% and we’re talking about a multi millionaire defendant, I think that’s a reasonable take away. Have you listened to the audio? There is no excusing it away. I have some sympathy with this but I'm also a little concerned by just how willing some are in their certainty of the lives of others. There is a difference between someone being an arsehole in a dysfunctional relationship and rape. I remember there being some weird aspects to this case and some questions, however it seems that, while this woman wasn't happy with what was going on it also looks like she didn't want to destroy his life either. I think the question here is should the state be a moral busy body when questions exist about the situation and they aren't being backed by the partner. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.23am)
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Originally posted by The groover
Reek's of payoff. I must admit it does. Probably making the best bet for her own future. Hopefully he understands just how close it came and learns an important lesson. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.26am)
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Originally posted by The groover
Reek's of payoff. It's not easy to go through a trial and the outcome and process are far from certain. So I concur with your view really that a point of agreement may have been reached, but of course could easily be wrong. I doubt someone like Greenwood will avoid further problems down the line. Innocent in law, but that doesn't mean that people have to like or respect him from what's out there, or pretend that his conduct is normal.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I must admit it does. Probably making the best bet for her own future. Hopefully he understands just how close it came and learns an important lesson. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.26am) pun intended?
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Originally posted by Vaibow
pun intended? Nah.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I have some sympathy with this but I'm also a little concerned by just how willing some are in their certainty of the lives of others. There is a difference between someone being an arsehole in a dysfunctional relationship and rape. I remember there being some weird aspects to this case and some questions, however it seems that, while this woman wasn't happy with what was going on it also looks like she didn't want to destroy his life either. I think the question here is should the state be a moral busy body when questions exist about the situation and they aren't being backed by the partner. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.23am) Have you listened to the audio and seen the images? Genuine question as I think a summary that’s he’s just an arsehole is not really supported - the audio is of a rape. The female clearly says many times “I don’t want to” and Greenwood repeatedly asserts that he doesn’t care, and if she’d have just done it when asked nicely he wouldn’t have to be doing this. Similarly, the images point to someone physically assaulting his partner - busted lips, bruised temples, bruised legs and wrists. These are not signs of simply a dysfunctional relationship. What are the weird aspects to the case and what are the questions?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I must admit it does. Probably making the best bet for her own future. Hopefully he understands just how close it came and learns an important lesson. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2023 12.26am) Going by the rumours, they're back together. The police willingly ignored his bail breaches (that's been proved) and let a man who was charged with coercive and controlling behaviour contact his victim, and surprisingly this ends up with the victim dropping the charges and taking him back? Of course it reeks.
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
The legal system owes it to the public and the defendant to issue far more clarity on this. The legal system including the CPS shrouds itself in secrecy. They say the law is an ass and this fully supports that view. Give us clarity. Exactly if you read the CPS statement it implies that the witnesses (plural) withdraw their statements AFTER new evidence came to light. Did any of this new evidence relate to the legitimacy of the audio that people keep referring to?
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Basically Innocent until proven guilty and not a trial by the public / media. In terms of the evidence the pictures could easily be halloween pics and the recording we only get a small part of the recording and not the whole bit. And to be quite honest I know full well some women have a kink for that and call it dirty talk.
That's quite impressive you should be greenwoods PR guy.
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Originally posted by derby eagle
That's quite impressive you should be greenwoods PR guy. Ah cmon, loads of people dress up as victims of abuse for Halloween. That’s a perfectly normal, logical suggestion.
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Yup Greenwood’s PR guy....apply you’ll probably get the job....laughable...
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Originally posted by derby eagle
That's quite impressive you should be greenwoods PR guy. There is also Snapchat / Instagram filters at Halloween that look pretty real! Anyways innocent until proven guilty is the law! I'm sure if you were ever in trouble and it wasn't your fault you would be glad of this!
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
There is also Snapchat / Instagram filters at Halloween that look pretty real! Anyways innocent until proven guilty is the law! I'm sure if you were ever in trouble and it wasn't your fault you would be glad of this! And being proven guilty is that bit harder when you can afford the best lawyers in the land.
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