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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 22 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It sounds entirely logical to me.

How do you reckon the men falsely convicted or rape stack up against the women who have been raped without any one being convicted?

They probably don't.

I'm of the belief that as soon as you take the 'innocent until proven guilty' aspect away from the justice system you essentially aren't doing justice.....you're convicting people based upon prejudice....what you think is statistically likely.

I recognise your anger, I just don't really know what can fairly be done about it.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 6.20pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think we can all tell he's scum.

He's also probably a rapist.

I have genuine sympathy for your anger because it's a crime that frequently goes unpunished.

I mean others are pretending you canít tell itís him on the audio and bits like that, so itís certainly not Ďallí, but Iím happy with that as a position.

Itís made my blood boil all day to be honest

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 31 Jan 22 6.23pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Who knows what they are into sexually, could have been recording themselves during role play, she could be into extreme bdsm, someone has hacked the phone and released the pics and recording. Who knows ? Probably unlikely but trial by social media is wrong and it should be innocent untill proven guilty.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 31 Jan 22 6.24pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Your first paragraph genuinely reads like a defence attorney - your position seems genuine but I hope you recognise the harm these type of responses do in dissuading other victims to come forward - this woman literally got it on tape and is being doubted and having her trustworthiness questioned - narratives like this are a big part of why the conviction rate sits so disgracefully low.

Again, how does one have faith in a system that so plainly doesnít work?

Maybe I've missed my Calling!

It's not my intention to discourage any other victims to come forward, I recognise it takes a lot of courage to do so, and I applaud them for it. I'm not questioning anyones trustworthyness or calling her a liar.
I hope you recognise the harm that positions like yours take on those who genuinely are falsely accused - and in the public eye?
We simply do not know who is victim here yet, it's too early to tell.

and isn't faith all about trusting something regardless? We need to recognise that it isn't perfect, but it's much better than the alternatives.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 22 6.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I mean others are pretending you canít tell itís him on the audio and bits like that, so itís certainly not Ďallí, but Iím happy with that as a position.

Itís made my blood boil all day to be honest

It's highly unlikely to be anyone else, she'd be putting herself right in it if that were the case as voice match technology is quite good.....and it's highly unlikely that she's in touch with IT fakers though Police should be thorough, phone and bank records and all that.

I think you're right to feel that....it's appalling.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jan 2022 6.30pm)

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 6.27pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They probably don't.

I'm of the belief that as soon as you take the 'innocent until proven guilty' aspect away from the justice system you essentially aren't doing justice.....you're convicting people based upon prejudice....what you think is statistically likely.

I recognise your anger, I just don't really know what can fairly be done about it.

I donít disagree that legally itís a minefield - a problem too hard for me to solve.

I just wish that when there is a case as obvious as this, people (and men in particular) were more willing to take a common sense approach and call it what it is, rather than everyone doing their best lawyer impression.

I canít emphasise how much this type of doubting/questioning of credibility prevents genuine victims from coming forward.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 6.30pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Maybe I've missed my Calling!

It's not my intention to discourage any other victims to come forward, I recognise it takes a lot of courage to do so, and I applaud them for it. I'm not questioning anyones trustworthyness or calling her a liar.
I hope you recognise the harm that positions like yours take on those who genuinely are falsely accused - and in the public eye?
We simply do not know who is victim here yet, it's too early to tell.

and isn't faith all about trusting something regardless? We need to recognise that it isn't perfect, but it's much better than the alternatives.

F*ck me.

 

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View mtp1958's Profile mtp1958 Flag Grays 31 Jan 22 7.01pm Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

sadly there are to many money makers around for people to trust , very sad if its true , even sadder if its not , if she is not telling the truth , so many woman will feel the hurt and betrayed in trying to prove there case , but if true throw away the key

 

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View Robk's Profile Robk Flag 31 Jan 22 7.29pm Send a Private Message to Robk Add Robk as a friend

Letís be honest .. the writing has been on the wall for a while... cocky.. arrogant little man... heís going to get whatís coming to him... how anyone can question it Iím not sure... see that Ronaldo and De Gea have taken him off their social media... kinda tellís you something......

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Jan 22 8.11pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

F*ck me.

Who said that?

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 31 Jan 22 11.33pm

Originally posted by Robk

Letís be honest .. the writing has been on the wall for a while... cocky.. arrogant little man... heís going to get whatís coming to him... how anyone can question it Iím not sure... see that Ronaldo and De Gea have taken him off their social media... kinda tellís you something......

His interviews have always seemed off. Emotionally devoid of any joy. Always came across as very intense and up himself. Like most though, I didn't really think beyond that. Now it's all turned into what looks like a horrendous situation.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 01 Feb 22 10.52am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I canít emphasise how much this type of doubting/questioning of credibility prevents genuine victims from coming forward.

But she didn't "come forward" as she just posted it on Instagram where it could have just sunk without trace

 

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