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 Midlands Eagle  15 Feb 23 11.11am |
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Rishi Sunak reminds him every Wednesday in PMQs
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 11.33am |
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I thought he actively undermined Corbyn? Have I missed something?
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| Matov 15 Feb 23 11.50am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I thought he actively undermined Corbyn? Have I missed something? Starmer destroyed Labour's chances of winning by spear-heading the campaign for Labour to adopt their lunacy of a second referendum campaign. Bored people s***less about this dozens of times with the why but it is a nailed-on fact. What he wants people to forget is what Corybn achieved in the 2017 General Election, as does most of the rest of the British political establishment.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Starmer destroyed Labour's chances of winning by spear-heading the campaign for Labour to adopt their lunacy of a second referendum campaign. Bored people s***less about this dozens of times with the why but it is a nailed-on fact. What he wants people to forget is what Corybn achieved in the 2017 General Election, as does most of the rest of the British political establishment. Yes, largely what I thought. The second referendum that nobody wanted really.
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| Matov 15 Feb 23 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Yes, largely what I thought. The second referendum that nobody wanted really. More than that. A proposal that made zero electoral sense given the constituency breakdown of the Leave/Remain vote in 2016. Following Labour's loss in 2015 the Fabian society produced an analysis of what they needed to do and firmly concluded, with nobody disputing it, that if Labour wanted to win a working majority then they needed to achieve that in England and Wales. Both of whom voted firmly (the breakdown I saw put it at 70/30 in favour of leaving on a constituency basis) to leave the EU. If there was a single policy that GUARANTEED Labour would lose, it was Starmer's second referendum policy. Which was beyond s*** (if you are sad enough go on Youtube and see the likes of Emily Thornberry, another proponent of it, getting ripped to shreds over the details). Excruciating to watch. Only conclusion is Startmer is beyond stupid. Or beyond sinister. I am firmly in the second camp.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 15 Feb 23 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I thought he actively undermined Corbyn? Have I missed something? If he did it was stealthy to the point of invisibility, amazing how many prominent Labour MPs claim to have been loudly critical......behind closed doors. Yeah right
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Feb 23 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Apologising for the way Labour previously handled anti-semitism within the party. Thought Chakrabati said there was no evidence of this! Was her report a complete fabrication then? Still she has done very nicely fir herself She who was elevated as a thank you for her cover up and then got bent out of shape when she couldn't get her son into Eton and had to end him sending to Dulwich College. Another self serving contette
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Feb 23 2.33pm |
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I wonder if Corbyn will run for Mayor of London?
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Feb 23 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
A couple of days more and Corbyn would have been in power in 2017. And he was a very effective leader of the opposition frequently defeating the government. Starmer may achieve office but whether he gets the heart of the labour party I don't think so. Wilson & Blair who both won successive elections, knew that labour was a broad church and included the left. He will be elected on the basis that the tories have run their course and nobody could be as bad. Your last line could be a prophecy gone wrong in 6 years
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| Glazier#1 15 Feb 23 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No one other than Leftist Jews and politicians care about antisemitism in the Labour Party. It's all just political grandstanding nonsense. What people should worry about is what a party who likes spending other people's money will do when they get in power when the piggy bank is empty. Stand by for even higher taxation. Also we can look forward to even more wokery and political correct nonsense. More pandering to minorities and more Remoaners lobbying to take us back into project United States of Europe. Can anyone see them undoing the crazy world we now live in where you can be jailed for saying the wrong thing? Thomas Cromwell would be proud of making the country this bonkers. If you think the Tories are bad, then you have a rude awakening. But at least Labour are not antisemitic. I thought the piggy bank is already empty. How come? after years of good old Tory rule? I thought they were the ones who could be trusted with the purse strings. Right. I imagine you'd like to live in a country where there is zero tax, no? I have to be careful what I say to you, I wouldn't want to get a yellow card, now would I haha.
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| silvertop Portishead 15 Feb 23 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
A couple of days more and Corbyn would have been in power in 2017. And he was a very effective leader of the opposition frequently defeating the government. Starmer may achieve office but whether he gets the heart of the labour party I don't think so. Wilson & Blair who both won successive elections, knew that labour was a broad church and included the left. He will be elected on the basis that the tories have run their course and nobody could be as bad. Did Blair not spend years evicting Militant?
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| YT Oxford 15 Feb 23 6.13pm |
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Remind me who Starmer is. I can't remember.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 6.50pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Remind me who Starmer is. I can't remember. I saw him today on the news but I still can't help you. Kind of nondescript.
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| Spiderman Horsham 15 Feb 23 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Remind me who Starmer is. I can't remember. The one sitting on the fence,
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| cryrst The garden of England 15 Feb 23 7.28pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
I thought the piggy bank is already empty. How come? after years of good old Tory rule? I thought they were the ones who could be trusted with the purse strings. Right. I imagine you'd like to live in a country where there is zero tax, no? I have to be careful what I say to you, I wouldn't want to get a yellow card, now would I haha. I’m quite confident the tories have cash at hand. The difference between them and labour is they value cash flow. So spend and replenish. Labour will and have done badly by emptying the bank then tax the hell out of you and me just to survive. The tories found £400 billion for covid. Does that look like a government with no reserves ?
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