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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.16pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 The nuclear system isnt connected to the internet at all and relies on a number of human interventions to activate.....for this very reason. You are correct: Two-man rule Main article: Two-man rule A Permissive Action Link (PAL) is a security device for nuclear weapons. These two locks are part of the implementation of the two-man-rule in a Minuteman ICBM launch control capsule. Modern PALS use the two-man rule, which is designed to prevent accidental or malicious launch of nuclear weapons by a single individual. For example, on a ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), both the commanding officer (CO) and executive officer (XO) must agree that the order to launch is valid, and then mutually authorize the launch with their operations personnel. Instead of another party confirming a missile launch as in the case of land-based ICBMs, the set of keys is distributed among the key personnel on the submarine and kept in safes (each of these crew members has access only to his keys), some of which are locked by combination locks. Nobody on board has the combination to open these safes; the unlock key comes as a part of the launch order from the higher authority. In the case of Minuteman missile launch crews, both operators must agree that the launch order is valid by comparing the order's authorisation code against a code from a Sealed Authenticator (a special sealed envelope that holds a code). The Sealed Authenticators are stored in a safe that has two separate locks so a single crew member cannot open the safe alone. Both crew members must simultaneously turn the 4 launch keys. An additional safeguard is provided by requiring the crew in another Launch Control Centre to do the same for the missiles to be launched. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.16pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

The nuclear system isnt connected to the internet at all and relies on a number of human interventions to activate.....for this very reason.

You are correct:

Two-man rule

Main article: Two-man rule

A Permissive Action Link (PAL) is a security device for nuclear weapons.

These two locks are part of the implementation of the two-man-rule in a Minuteman ICBM launch control capsule.
Modern PALS use the two-man rule, which is designed to prevent accidental or malicious launch of nuclear weapons by a single individual.
For example, on a ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), both the commanding officer (CO) and executive officer (XO) must agree that the order to launch is valid, and then mutually authorize the launch with their operations personnel. Instead of another party confirming a missile launch as in the case of land-based ICBMs, the set of keys is distributed among the key personnel on the submarine and kept in safes (each of these crew members has access only to his keys), some of which are locked by combination locks. Nobody on board has the combination to open these safes; the unlock key comes as a part of the launch order from the higher authority.
In the case of Minuteman missile launch crews, both operators must agree that the launch order is valid by comparing the order's authorisation code against a code from a Sealed Authenticator (a special sealed envelope that holds a code). The Sealed Authenticators are stored in a safe that has two separate locks so a single crew member cannot open the safe alone. Both crew members must simultaneously turn the 4 launch keys. An additional safeguard is provided by requiring the crew in another Launch Control Centre to do the same for the missiles to be launched.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 3.26pm
Well done Jeremy, the only leader who will look after ex servicemen. Attachment: 18465198_427280820976874_4258538027640422400_n.mp4 (1,983.97Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 3.26pm

Well done Jeremy, the only leader who will look after ex servicemen.

Attachment: 18465198_427280820976874_4258538027640422400_n.mp4 (1,983.97Kb)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 3.28pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 The nuclear system isnt connected to the internet at all and relies on a number of human interventions to activate.....for this very reason. I think you missed the tongue in cheekness of my post.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 3.28pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

The nuclear system isnt connected to the internet at all and relies on a number of human interventions to activate.....for this very reason.

I think you missed the tongue in cheekness of my post.

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.37pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] If the Tories are so great, why have nurses voted to strike for the first time ever? Not really an overwhelming vote Nick: NEWS HEADLINE. "More than 50,000 of the Royal College of Nursing’s 270,000 members took part in the poll" I get the SAME rise each year as do the nurses and other people 1% and you do not see us all kicking up about it. When it was first broadcast about 1% being the ceiling some years ago the nurses did not kick up then as they do get a good screw between you and me as do teachers. I have close friends in both of the professions and all do is complain about extra workloads which most jobs these days require. Its called working for a living. I too wish my pensions were paying more as I earnt them but I am afraid there is only so much money in the pot to go round. As for nurses going to food banks I find it hard to believe unless they are pissing their money up against the wall or overspending on other things which I think would be the case. The lowest paid nurse gets £15,251 per year which is much more than some people earn in other jobs and they survive but cutting the cloth accordingly. The nursed pay scales are as follows: [Link] The teachers pay scales: [Link] I think both scales prove that they get a good screw and better pay than a lot of people on this website even. True they have to work for it like EVERYONE does these days and the wages are not as bad as both sectors make out! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link]

If the Tories are so great, why have nurses voted to strike for the first time ever?

Not really an overwhelming vote Nick:

NEWS HEADLINE.
"More than 50,000 of the Royal College of Nursing’s 270,000 members took part in the poll"

I get the SAME rise each year as do the nurses and other people 1% and you do not see us all kicking up about it. When it was first broadcast about 1% being the ceiling some years ago the nurses did not kick up then as they do get a good screw between you and me as do teachers. I have close friends in both of the professions and all do is complain about extra workloads which most jobs these days require. Its called working for a living. I too wish my pensions were paying more as I earnt them but I am afraid there is only so much money in the pot to go round. As for nurses going to food banks I find it hard to believe unless they are pissing their money up against the wall or overspending on other things which I think would be the case.
The lowest paid nurse gets £15,251 per year which is much more than some people earn in other jobs and they survive but cutting the cloth accordingly.

The nursed pay scales are as follows:
[Link]

The teachers pay scales:
[Link]

I think both scales prove that they get a good screw and better pay than a lot of people on this website even. True they have to work for it like EVERYONE does these days and the wages are not as bad as both sectors make out!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.42pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Well done Jeremy, the only leader who will look after ex servicemen. The Tories have done a great job looking after my injured and wounded fellow marines and Jonny Mercer MP here in Plymouth is champion to ALL ex serviceman and does a fantastic job all over the country. With Corbyn its all talk as it was with Boy Blair and Brown. They could not look after themselves let alone servicemen ...apart from sending the poor blokes to war under a false banner ??? Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 May 17 3.42pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Well done Jeremy, the only leader who will look after ex servicemen.

The Tories have done a great job looking after my injured and wounded fellow marines and Jonny Mercer MP here in Plymouth is champion to ALL ex serviceman and does a fantastic job all over the country. With Corbyn its all talk as it was with Boy Blair and Brown. They could not look after themselves let alone servicemen ...apart from sending the poor blokes to war under a false banner ???

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

serial thriller The Promised Land 15 May 17 4.19pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide. See I don't totally disagree with you, but I am starting to feel cautiously optimistic. What we are seeing at the moment, and of course no one in the MSM is framing it this way, is the mobilisation of the biggest political party in Europe, over half a million people, something we haven't seen in this country in generations. This is something which potentially bypasses the establishment narrative, and this is why a lot of prominent journalists are reacting in panic to it: because despite nearly all of the MSM vigorously pushing the Tory message, their lead has been cut by half since the elction was called. That is astonishing. The Media are extremely powerful in this country, but they are not omnipotent. People on the ground, talking and engaging with people who typically are uninterested, will have an effect, and it is clear that the more people hear of Corbyn and his policies, the more who are sympathetic. Look at Grime. It is the biggest sub-cultural movement in the country, and it is playing a huge role in advocating Corbyn to young black peope with previously no interest in politics. That is a great thing, surely, for anyone who believes in democracy. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 15 May 17 4.19pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide.

See I don't totally disagree with you, but I am starting to feel cautiously optimistic. What we are seeing at the moment, and of course no one in the MSM is framing it this way, is the mobilisation of the biggest political party in Europe, over half a million people, something we haven't seen in this country in generations. This is something which potentially bypasses the establishment narrative, and this is why a lot of prominent journalists are reacting in panic to it: because despite nearly all of the MSM vigorously pushing the Tory message, their lead has been cut by half since the elction was called. That is astonishing.

The Media are extremely powerful in this country, but they are not omnipotent. People on the ground, talking and engaging with people who typically are uninterested, will have an effect, and it is clear that the more people hear of Corbyn and his policies, the more who are sympathetic.

Look at Grime. It is the biggest sub-cultural movement in the country, and it is playing a huge role in advocating Corbyn to young black peope with previously no interest in politics. That is a great thing, surely, for anyone who believes in democracy.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.30pm
Originally posted by serial thriller See I don't totally disagree with you, but I am starting to feel cautiously optimistic. What we are seeing at the moment, and of course no one in the MSM is framing it this way, is the mobilisation of the biggest political party in Europe, over half a million people, something we haven't seen in this country in generations. This is something which potentially bypasses the establishment narrative, and this is why a lot of prominent journalists are reacting in panic to it: because despite nearly all of the MSM vigorously pushing the Tory message, their lead has been cut by half since the elction was called. That is astonishing. The Media are extremely powerful in this country, but they are not omnipotent. People on the ground, talking and engaging with people who typically are uninterested, will have an effect, and it is clear that the more people hear of Corbyn and his policies, the more who are sympathetic. Look at Grime. It is the biggest sub-cultural movement in the country, and it is playing a huge role in advocating Corbyn to young black peope with previously no interest in politics. That is a great thing, surely, for anyone who believes in democracy. We have been here before, Red Wedge? The problem seems to be that whilst the Labour Party may be the biggest in Europe, they do not back the leader 100%. You are still talking about a marginal amount of people, assuming the young can be bothered to register and then be bothered vote. We will get a better idea once the manifestos are released but Labour, unsurprisingly, have already come under scrutiny regarding their figures. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.30pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

Look at Grime. It is the biggest sub-cultural movement in the country, and it is playing a huge role in advocating Corbyn to young black peope with previously no interest in politics. That is a great thing, surely, for anyone who believes in democracy.

We have been here before, Red Wedge?

The problem seems to be that whilst the Labour Party may be the biggest in Europe, they do not back the leader 100%. You are still talking about a marginal amount of people, assuming the young can be bothered to register and then be bothered vote.

We will get a better idea once the manifestos are released but Labour, unsurprisingly, have already come under scrutiny regarding their figures.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 4.38pm
[Tweet Link] Tories, the party for hard working families. The party of a booming economy!

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 4.38pm

[Tweet Link]

Tories, the party for hard working families. The party of a booming economy!

serial thriller The Promised Land 15 May 17 4.42pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch We have been here before, Red Wedge? The problem seems to be that whilst the Labour Party may be the biggest in Europe, they do not back the leader 100%. You are still talking about a marginal amount of people, assuming the young can be bothered to register and then be bothered vote. We will get a better idea once the manifestos are released but Labour, unsurprisingly, have already come under scrutiny regarding their figures. Since Corbyn became leader, the membership has nearly tripled. I would say that the vast majority are on side. Youth voter registration is also at record levels, which again is fanatastic news for democracy. As for the spending, you have to ask who is asking the question about Labour's figures? Surely the Tories need as much scrutiny, particularly considering that under their leadership, borrowing has gone up, debt has gone up, tax cuts have continued and government subsidies to private companies in infrastructure, the health service, education etc etc have only exacerbated? Yet no one seems to question where the money for this is coming from. Funny. By contrast, Labour will have a fully costed manifesto, and the promise of a National Investment bank and targeted sectors for government borrowing put them in s different league to the Tories in terms of economic accountability and detail. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 15 May 17 4.42pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

We have been here before, Red Wedge?

We will get a better idea once the manifestos are released but Labour, unsurprisingly, have already come under scrutiny regarding their figures.

Since Corbyn became leader, the membership has nearly tripled. I would say that the vast majority are on side. Youth voter registration is also at record levels, which again is fanatastic news for democracy.

As for the spending, you have to ask who is asking the question about Labour's figures? Surely the Tories need as much scrutiny, particularly considering that under their leadership, borrowing has gone up, debt has gone up, tax cuts have continued and government subsidies to private companies in infrastructure, the health service, education etc etc have only exacerbated? Yet no one seems to question where the money for this is coming from. Funny.

By contrast, Labour will have a fully costed manifesto, and the promise of a National Investment bank and targeted sectors for government borrowing put them in s different league to the Tories in terms of economic accountability and detail.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.43pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Tweet Link] Tories, the party for hard working families. The party of a booming economy! Come on Nick, the answer is in your tweet the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.43pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Tweet Link]

Tories, the party for hard working families. The party of a booming economy!

Come on Nick, the answer is in your tweet

the dignified don't even enter in the game

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 4.47pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Come on Nick, the answer is in your tweet Average pay is lower than up to 18 years ago. It doesn't look like wages are going up any time soon. Well for the vast majority anyway. Still we can afford wars.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 4.47pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Come on Nick, the answer is in your tweet

Average pay is lower than up to 18 years ago. It doesn't look like wages are going up any time soon. Well for the vast majority anyway.

Still we can afford wars.

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.53pm
Originally posted by serial thriller Since Corbyn became leader, the membership has nearly tripled. I would say that the vast majority are on side. Youth voter registration is also at record levels, which again is fanatastic news for democracy. As for the spending, you have to ask who is asking the question about Labour's figures? Surely the Tories need as much scrutiny, particularly considering that under their leadership, borrowing has gone up, debt has gone up, tax cuts have continued and government subsidies to private companies in infrastructure, the health service, education etc etc have only exacerbated? Yet no one seems to question where the money for this is coming from. Funny. By contrast, Labour will have a fully costed manifesto, and the promise of a National Investment bank and targeted sectors for government borrowing put them in s different league to the Tories in terms of economic accountability and detail. Of course the Tories should be quizzed about their manifesto. I would imagine that like Labour, they will have costed it. if not then they will deserve the hubris that will follow. I couldn't find much about the Labour demographic but this suggests it hasn;t changed much at all. [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 15 May 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

Of course the Tories should be quizzed about their manifesto. I would imagine that like Labour, they will have costed it. if not then they will deserve the hubris that will follow.

I couldn't find much about the Labour demographic but this suggests it hasn;t changed much at all.
[Link]

the dignified don't even enter in the game

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 5.15pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Of course the Tories should be quizzed about their manifesto. I would imagine that like Labour, they will have costed it. if not then they will deserve the hubris that will follow. I couldn't find much about the Labour demographic but this suggests it hasn;t changed much at all. [Link] The huff don't like Corbyn, even referring to him as 'dear leader '

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 5.15pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Of course the Tories should be quizzed about their manifesto. I would imagine that like Labour, they will have costed it. if not then they will deserve the hubris that will follow.

I couldn't find much about the Labour demographic but this suggests it hasn;t changed much at all.
[Link]

The huff don't like Corbyn, even referring to him as 'dear leader '

Lyons550 Shirley 15 May 17 5.17pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I think you missed the tongue in cheekness of my post. ...probably... lol Whens the next meet up with Jel happening? Edited by Lyons550 (15 May 2017 5.18pm) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

Lyons550

Shirley 15 May 17 5.17pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think you missed the tongue in cheekness of my post.

...probably... lol

Whens the next meet up with Jel happening?

Edited by Lyons550 (15 May 2017 5.18pm)

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 6.16pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 ...probably... lol Whens the next meet up with Jel happening? Edited by Lyons550 (15 May 2017 5.18pm) Dunno. Are there any salad places in the locale?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 6.16pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

...probably... lol

Whens the next meet up with Jel happening?

Edited by Lyons550 (15 May 2017 5.18pm)

Dunno. Are there any salad places in the locale?

matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 8.38pm
Originally posted by legaleagle True,but if he were truly centre left,he wouldn't have banged on about his admiration for Maggie Bollocks. I admire Wedgie Benn for his principles but his politics are s***e. You can admire people on the other side. I thought you would get that because you can see things from 'more than one angle'. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 15 May 17 8.38pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

True,but if he were truly centre left,he wouldn't have banged on about his admiration for Maggie

Bollocks. I admire Wedgie Benn for his principles but his politics are s***e.

You can admire people on the other side. I thought you would get that because you can see things from 'more than one angle'.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 8.40pm
Originally posted by serial thriller Since Corbyn became leader, the membership has nearly tripled. I would say that the vast majority are on side. Youth voter registration is also at record levels, which again is fanatastic news for democracy. As for the spending, you have to ask who is asking the question about Labour's figures? Surely the Tories need as much scrutiny, particularly considering that under their leadership, borrowing has gone up, debt has gone up, tax cuts have continued and government subsidies to private companies in infrastructure, the health service, education etc etc have only exacerbated? Yet no one seems to question where the money for this is coming from. Funny. By contrast, Labour will have a fully costed manifesto, and the promise of a National Investment bank and targeted sectors for government borrowing put them in s different league to the Tories in terms of economic accountability and detail. I laughed so much at this post I nearly pissed myself. Believe what you want to, comrade. But it is s***e because McDonnell clearly cannot count. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 15 May 17 8.40pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I laughed so much at this post I nearly pissed myself.

Believe what you want to, comrade. But it is s***e because McDonnell clearly cannot count.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 8.53pm
Originally posted by legaleagle xxxxxxxxx ps. IMHO,the current Tory regime are indeed scumbag politicians...unpleasant people who have done unacceptable things...just an opinion Unlike you,I also see the faults in 'my own' side..that's the essential difference between us What in your humble opinion are the main faults with the current Tory government,and with your chosen party last time, UKIP? Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2017 1.15pm) Rumpole, UKIP ceased to be relevant on June 24 2016, a day you will one day recognise as being the day we freed ourselves from the Socialist Federation of Greater Germany. Despite your petulant moaning. However, the working class need a right of centre alternative to fight for its rights, given the lefts betrayal of it and its obsession with minorities, so it is heartening to see the Tories adopt the most right wing agenda they have done in years, with a Thatcherite Christian in charge, and hope they stick to the agenda of a clean Brexit, low tax, preservation of the Union, rolled back state and British values. If they don't, then Sir Nigel will come back with a new political vehicle. Thank the lord for Sir Nigel, Britains most successful politician of recent times, a man of conviction and doing. How you must wish for a left wing Sir Nigel. Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 8.55pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 15 May 17 8.53pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

xxxxxxxxx

ps. IMHO,the current Tory regime are indeed scumbag politicians...unpleasant people who have done unacceptable things...just an opinion

Unlike you,I also see the faults in 'my own' side..that's the essential difference between us

What in your humble opinion are the main faults with the current Tory government,and with your chosen party last time, UKIP?

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2017 1.15pm)

Rumpole, UKIP ceased to be relevant on June 24 2016, a day you will one day recognise as being the day we freed ourselves from the Socialist Federation of Greater Germany. Despite your petulant moaning.

However, the working class need a right of centre alternative to fight for its rights, given the lefts betrayal of it and its obsession with minorities, so it is heartening to see the Tories adopt the most right wing agenda they have done in years, with a Thatcherite Christian in charge, and hope they stick to the agenda of a clean Brexit, low tax, preservation of the Union, rolled back state and British values.

If they don't, then Sir Nigel will come back with a new political vehicle. Thank the lord for Sir Nigel, Britains most successful politician of recent times, a man of conviction and doing. How you must wish for a left wing Sir Nigel.

Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 8.55pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 9.37pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Rumpole, UKIP ceased to be relevant on June 24 2016, a day you will one day recognise as being the day we freed ourselves from the Socialist Federation of Greater Germany. Despite your petulant moaning. However, the working class need a right of centre alternative to fight for its rights, given the lefts betrayal of it and its obsession with minorities, so it is heartening to see the Tories adopt the most right wing agenda they have done in years, with a Thatcherite Christian in charge, and hope they stick to the agenda of a clean Brexit, low tax, preservation of the Union, rolled back state and British values. If they don't, then Sir Nigel will come back with a new political vehicle. Thank the lord for Sir Nigel, Britains most successful politician of recent times, a man of conviction and doing. How you must wish for a left wing Sir Nigel. Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 8.55pm) Man of the people you say.. [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 May 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 8.55pm)

Man of the people you say..

[Tweet Link]

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 15 May 17 9.48pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Man of the people you say.. [Tweet Link] Will be interesting to see which way Calder Valley goes. I am surprised he hasn't focused on more marginals that a comparatively safe Tory seat. It is certainly frustrating some of my Labour supporting mates. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 15 May 17 9.48pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Man of the people you say..

[Tweet Link]

Will be interesting to see which way Calder Valley goes. I am surprised he hasn't focused on more marginals that a comparatively safe Tory seat. It is certainly frustrating some of my Labour supporting mates.

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