On the experts comment, I think you’re right.

we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?

Briefly poking my vole's snout into this debate - in terms of May's decision to involve Corbyn and his comrades,paying the political price of this decision, only to find that there appears to be no actual benefits to it – because Labour are unlikely to want to be helpful, and because their idea of helpful is neither acceptable nor desirable to the Government is the worst of both worlds.

The only person who has gained so far is Corbyn, who accrues a little more legitimacy, and walks a little taller, when a Tory Prime Minister comes begging for his help. And that’s bad news all round.

I shall now return to the football debates !

I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver.

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.

Still waiting for Brexit.

On the experts comment, I think you’re right. We should’ve joined the Euro, because we missed out on the excitement when it went t1ts up, and we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?

Yep, I've noticed this as well.

When you hang around long enough you learn that when it comes to prediction the word 'expert' is a misleading word. It's why people still place bets at the bookies.

Indeed, I've lived long enough to witness people presented in glowing terms say many things that turned out to be inaccurate.

So for me, an 'expert' isn't involved in the theoretical.....You may have very knowledgeable people but I regard the word, 'expert' to be misplaced.

An expert is someone involved in the tangible, who can demonstrate an expertise repeatedly. A surgeon, an architect, a carpenter....so on and so forth.

Yep, I've noticed this as well.

When you hang around long enough you learn that when it comes to prediction the word 'expert' is a misleading word. It's why people still place bets at the bookies.

Indeed, I've lived long enough to witness people presented in glowing terms say many things that turned out to be inaccurate.

So for me, an 'expert' isn't involved in the theoretical.....You may have very knowledgeable people but I regard the word, 'expert' to be misplaced.

An expert is someone involved in the tangible, who can demonstrate an expertise repeatedly. A surgeon, an architect, a carpenter....so on and so forth.

Nicely put. These experts should be coining it in trading financial markets, surely? But they’re not.

Did your wages go up?