What an absurd response. He's made quite a few decent points there, especially on corporation tax rates and the lack of opportunities to large amounts of the country provided by this and previous Tory governments.

You've jumped on one point that you disagree with and described and then claimed the post lacks credibility. Sadly evidence suggests that the Tories either are elitist and unfairly treat the least well off or are simply careless and bad at running the country. Or both.

Just look at the pamphlets they released with fake disabled people on praising their anti-disability policies.

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It's not absurd. It is highlighting that the poster starts from a position of ignorance and prejudice, therefore, the point I am making is what is the point of 'debating' with such a person?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

He failed to perfectly recall a number which is fairly irrelevant. The policies are what's important. Have you read the manifesto and the costings document? None of the revenue raising seems wildly unrealistic and may even end up being conservative. The biggest challenge will be SDLT on bonds etc. but it works on shares so no real reason to believe it can't work.

I eagerly await the Tories' version so I can compare.

I've looked. I can't find your reasoned critique of the Labour manifesto.

I wrote about Labours policies a few pages back.

You are doing the HoL version of the 'Harlow quiz'. That is when you go into a pub in Harlow and get asked 'what are you looking at' and 'what's your problem' and whatever answer you give incorrect.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Theresa May's comment about working your way out of poverty kind of allude to this mindset though and doesn't do them any favours.

When 55% of people in poverty are working people, wages have been static and now with the inflationary effects of the weak pound there's going to be a hell of a lot of people working as hard as they can to keep their head above water even worse off.

Edited by DanH (16 May 2017 6.03pm)

'Kind of allude [sic] to this mindset'.

Well that's me corrected by science. Thank you professor.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Look for it yourself.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

I'm coming from a position of prejudice by responding to someone in a detailed post who says that labour hate the rich?? What are you going on about?

I wrote line after line of questions, genuinely trying to understand your view, I only engage to understand different views, I don't understand people who argue about politics just for the sake of arguing, what's the point? A tiny little piece I made the statement that tories make you believe the poor are lazy, you've called me ignorant and prejudice yet ignore every single other point brought up which, again, was brought up after you claimed that Labour hate the rich.

You're supposed to be the Tory expert, I asked you the questions to try and understand the reasoning behind your statements and all you can do is throw your toys out the pram, call me ignorant and tell me to jog on. Typical type of s*** really isn't it

Edited by Mstrobez (16 May 2017 6.15pm)

We're the Arthur over ere!

As I said before, jog on.

There is no point engaging with someone whose position is founded on prejudice.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02