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Bert the Head Flag Epsom 22 Jul 22 10.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

At this point I shall just give up trying to reason with unreasonable people who always somehow know better due to some nonsense they read on the interweb.

If anyone that has a scientific background in climatology cares to debate then I will re-engage.

Meanwhile I shall try to get out of the record breaking heat whilst considering how the hell farming is going to cope with constantly having to creep North to get away from the growing heat in the South.

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I wouldn't bother trying to reason with the right-wing nutters on this site. I'd just look at putting stuff out for people who are evidence based and let reasonable people make their minds up elsewhere.

Some people still actually believe the bible is a true account of the life of Jesus and other people even more surprisingly believe the Sun, the Daily, the Express and Telegraph is a true account of life in the UK in 2022 rather than just propaganda disseminated by highly paid editors working for billionaire non-doms.

Other than football there is nothing to discuss on here that isn’t in the tabloids. Leave, leave it, Walk away.


Edited by Bert the Head (22 Jul 2022 10.42pm)

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 22 Jul 22 10.49pm

Originally posted by Bert the Head

I wouldn't bother trying to reason with the right-wing nutters on this site. I'd just look at putting stuff out for people who are evidence based and let reasonable people make their minds up elsewhere.

Some people still actually believe the bible is a true account of the life of Jesus and other people even more surprisingly believe the Sun, the Daily, the Express and Telegraph is a true account of life in the UK in 2022 rather than just propaganda disseminated by highly paid editors working for billionaire non-doms.

Other than football there is nothing to discuss on here that isn’t in the tabloids. Leave, leave it, Walk away.


Edited by Bert the Head (22 Jul 2022 10.42pm)

Yes ok I bow to your knowledge of climate change. Although it is all bollox but my knowledge is from a position of being in a minority. Seems to be the higher truer ground in every other area of society but with climate change It is the opposite.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 22 Jul 22 11.06pm

Yeah, head off with to superiority complex land and live amongst yourselves....god we can only wish.

They would be tearing each other limb from limb in a week.....Some of them are so far up their own backsides they can't find the light switch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2022 11.20pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Jul 22 11.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, head off with to superiority complex land and live amongst yourselves....god we can only wish.

They would be tearing each other limb from limb in a week.....Some of them are far up their own backsides they can't find the light switch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2022 11.07pm)

I don’t know how many times I have asked

Just do a little analysis of objective sources and inform yourself before you post

Slavishly accepting some loon with an equally barking YouTube following does not constitute research.

The worst thing is the way people scream the views of ill informed eejits and then say they are only not listened to because they are prepared to break with the consensus. No, it’s because they are either swivel eyed loons or make money out of the gullible.

Edited by Mapletree (22 Jul 2022 11.27pm)

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Jul 22 11.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, head off with to superiority complex land and live amongst yourselves....god we can only wish.

They would be tearing each other limb from limb in a week.....Some of them are so far up their own backsides they can't find the light switch.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2022 11.20pm)

God has a capital G.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 22 Jul 22 11.44pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

God has a capital G.

That's not what he told me.

Besides, nice G spot.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 22 Jul 22 11.50pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t know how many times I have asked

Just do a little analysis of objective sources and inform yourself before you post

Slavishly accepting some loon with an equally barking YouTube following does not constitute research.

The worst thing is the way people scream the views of ill informed eejits and then say they are only not listened to because they are prepared to break with the consensus. No, it’s because they are either swivel eyed loons or make money out of the gullible.

Edited by Mapletree (22 Jul 2022 11.27pm)

Most of the time I'm right and you're....well Maple.

Are you calling Carlson....a guy with the largest news broadcast in US news media, beating all of the Democratic TV media?....a loon with a Youtube following?

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2022 11.51pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 Jul 22 3.33am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t know how many times I have asked

Just do a little analysis of objective sources and inform yourself before you post

Slavishly accepting some loon with an equally barking YouTube following does not constitute research.

The worst thing is the way people scream the views of ill informed eejits and then say they are only not listened to because they are prepared to break with the consensus. No, it’s because they are either swivel eyed loons or make money out of the gullible.

Edited by Mapletree (22 Jul 2022 11.27pm)

Some of these minority of scientists now consigned to the files of (didn’t agree see ya) history are the very same who were probably garnering audiences of many thousands years ago when discussing evolution or the same. Suddenly they are loons who don’t have a clue even though their studies are possibly more considered and sensible, oh and older. Although maybe they arnt just greedy bstards like the yes men and women. IMHO of course, I’m not throwing aspersions at any greedy bstard.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Jul 22 7.53am

Originally posted by cryrst

Some of these minority of scientists now consigned to the files of (didn’t agree see ya) history are the very same who were probably garnering audiences of many thousands years ago when discussing evolution or the same. Suddenly they are loons who don’t have a clue even though their studies are possibly more considered and sensible, oh and older. Although maybe they arnt just greedy bstards like the yes men and women. IMHO of course, I’m not throwing aspersions at any greedy bstard.

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories that some push on here. However broken clock and all that...

It seems that drug companies have been making billions by pushing anti depressants that don't work all based on dodgy research that no one in the scientific community thought to question.

Back in the sixties I was the only kid in my class who did not have his tonsils removed.

Ulcers were down to stress and lifestyle not an infection.

There are plenty of examples of a consensus in the scientific / medical community that is later reversed.

Bottom line a healthy skepticism is not a bad thing as long as it is based on challenging so called research.

 


One more point

Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 Jul 22 12.13am

Originally posted by Badger11

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories that some push on here. However broken clock and all that...

It seems that drug companies have been making billions by pushing anti depressants that don't work all based on dodgy research that no one in the scientific community thought to question.

Back in the sixties I was the only kid in my class who did not have his tonsils removed.

Ulcers were down to stress and lifestyle not an infection.

There are plenty of examples of a consensus in the scientific / medical community that is later reversed.

Bottom line a healthy skepticism is not a bad thing as long as it is based on challenging so called research.

Some drugs work for some people going through mental health crises. Usually not for ever. Any drug that has no effect wouldn’t sell, nobody would prescribe it.

If the wrong drugs are used, or drugs prescribed wrongly or for too long that is not the fault of the drug companies

We have very little ammunition for dealing with mental illness. Usually just patch them up and send them back out. Drugs are our easiest sticking plaster and definitely help.

But then they get used in a way for which they weren’t designed or sold.

I have run two hospitals specialising in mental health issues and multiple care homes.

 

W12 24 Jul 22 3.24pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Some drugs work for some people going through mental health crises. Usually not for ever. Any drug that has no effect wouldn’t sell, nobody would prescribe it.

If the wrong drugs are used, or drugs prescribed wrongly or for too long that is not the fault of the drug companies

We have very little ammunition for dealing with mental illness. Usually just patch them up and send them back out. Drugs are our easiest sticking plaster and definitely help.

But then they get used in a way for which they weren’t designed or sold.

I have run two hospitals specialising in mental health issues and multiple care homes.

I spent some time in the “psychology/Psychotherapy” community a few years ago because the subject interested me at the time. One thing I can say for sure is that it’s full of absolute charlatans and based on very little science. The very idea that you are not in full control of your own brain is a toxic one.

Jung had some interesting stuff to say but Freud was an obsolute charlatan.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Jul 22 3.53pm

Originally posted by W12

I spent some time in the “psychology/Psychotherapy” community a few years ago because the subject interested me at the time. One thing I can say for sure is that it’s full of absolute charlatans and based on very little science. The very idea that you are not in full control of your own brain is a toxic one.

Jung had some interesting stuff to say but Freud was an obsolute charlatan.

Did you umm… get a stash

 

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 24 Jul 22 5.03pm

I can't help but be a little irritated by the BBC's advert for the upcoming Commonwealth Games.

Their advert is all about it being "A Brum Ting".

It's not a Brum Ting. It's the Commonwealth Games being hosted in Birmingham, not some Midlands version of the Notting Hill Carnival.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

HeathMan Flag Purley 24 Jul 22 9.53pm

Is the Notting Hill carnival taking place this year?

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Jul 22 10.50pm

Originally posted by W12

I spent some time in the “psychology/Psychotherapy” community a few years ago because the subject interested me at the time. One thing I can say for sure is that it’s full of absolute charlatans and based on very little science.

Jung had some interesting stuff to say but Freud was an absolute charlatan.

sh@gging his own patients
getting them hooked on cocaine

using cocaine himself
all his crackpot dalliances with ancient civilisations & hocus pocus.

the total lack of scientific method in his ramblings.

an utter utter scoundrel

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jul 22 9.10pm

Looks like the BBC have been up to their usual dishonest tricks again.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Jul 22 12.19am

plus Freud's attempts to get people to leave him all their stuff in their Will.

the BBC.......... its pure comedy at this stage. The morning of the Brexit vote ? that deserves a comedy award, with Ricky Gervais as the compere.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 26 Jul 22 7.59am

Originally posted by mezzer

I can't help but be a little irritated by the BBC's advert for the upcoming Commonwealth Games.

Their advert is all about it being "A Brum Ting".

It's not a Brum Ting. It's the Commonwealth Games being hosted in Birmingham, not some Midlands version of the Notting Hill Carnival.

Exactly, it's not like when we hosted the Olympics is it? Did we call that London 2012 and have stuff like London buses and the Links singing Waterloo sunset at the opening ceremony or London landmarks all over the branding.

Just pandering to Northern sensibilities in a typical BBC way.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Jul 22 8.04am

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Exactly, it's not like when we hosted the Olympics is it? Did we call that London 2012 and have stuff like London buses and the Links singing Waterloo sunset at the opening ceremony or London landmarks all over the branding.

Just pandering to Northern sensibilities in a typical BBC way.

I see Mayor Kannot is trying to bring the Olympics back to London. I am still waiting to see the legacy that we were promised was part of the bid?

 


One more point

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Jul 22 8.10am

Originally posted by Badger11

I see Mayor Kannot is trying to bring the Olympics back to London. I am still waiting to see the legacy that we were promised was part of the bid?

Wet Spam were given that.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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