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Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 05 May 23 6.40pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I think in today's day and age Paddy would be played by Idris Elba, Steve would be played by Lizzo and Sam Smith would play a turnstile.

And what an insufferable turnstile it would be. More irritating than that one at West Ham that delayed the match half an hour.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 May 23 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

And what an insufferable turnstile it would be. More irritating than that one at West Ham that delayed the match half an hour.

I wouldn’t go that far, nor blame it on a single turnstile, they’re all in on it! Wasn’t just the Spam game either or only this year!!

The win consolation nonetheless

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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silvertop Flag Portishead 05 May 23 8.18pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Which is the crap idea I've been saying is ridiculous. Mentor him? Really?
You cannot replicate real conditions when taking a penalty in practice. Likewise in management. Paddy must go and manage to learn. Not be 'mentored'. What kind of new age rubbish is this.
Lampard is adored by Chelsea fans. Did Chelsea keep him on staff and give him the job? No. They let him go to Derby to see how he coped.
The entire city of Liverpool has love and admiration for Steven Gerrard. Did they mentor him for the managers job? Of course not. They let him go to Rangers and then Villa with the hope that he'll prove himself and go back and get the job down the road. Sensible business and football people are in the results business. You dont get results with sentiment. Even your favourites must prove themselves if you want to be successful.

GRR angry post. Didn't say I thought it. Didn't even say it was sensible. Could work. Probably won't. Might work??

But as a teaser, since moving to 1st team the u21 have been rubbish in the league..?

 

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babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 06 May 23 1.35am Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

If Roy and Ray continue to motivate the team the way they appear to be doing it would be madness to change a winning formula.That is provided he wants another season. He may want to leave on a high and I wouldnt blame him. Managing and organising a bunch of overpaid footballers cannot be easy but he has got them all playing well with smiles on their faces and there seems to be a new freedom and confidence for them to get forward and press and attack. I suspect they wernt happy with the way PV set them up and that was reflected in our poor results and performances. We may have survived under PV .. we will never know but I am loving this new regeneration with Roy and Ray at the helm.

 

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SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 06 May 23 9.21am Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

If Roy and Ray continue to motivate the team the way they appear to be doing it would be madness to change a winning formula.That is provided he wants another season. He may want to leave on a high and I wouldnt blame him. Managing and organising a bunch of overpaid footballers cannot be easy but he has got them all playing well with smiles on their faces and there seems to be a new freedom and confidence for them to get forward and press and attack. I suspect they wernt happy with the way PV set them up and that was reflected in our poor results and performances. We may have survived under PV .. we will never know but I am loving this new regeneration with Roy and Ray at the helm.

Totally agree with this
However , I fully believe we would have been relegated if PV wasn’t sacked , the players had no belief on themselves and as you say , compared to now playing with smiles on their faces, they looked sapped of energy and confidence , I mean the biggest example of this is Olise , he’s really come out of his shell since Roy has taken back over

 


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PatrickA Flag London 06 May 23 9.41am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I was happy when Roy left a couple of seasons ago as it seemed the right time for him to go while acknowledging that he had done some excellent work in his first couple of seasons.
However, he looks a good fit for the current squad of players and they have responded well to his coaching methods.
Simplicity can be genius in football and Roy has,
1) Got Schlupp in his most effective position driving forward from an inside left position where he can use his pace and power
2) Moved Eze to an inside right position where he can link effectively with Olise and get closer to goal to demonstrate his clever footwork. When was the last time we looked as threatening down our right side? Our threat has almost exclusively been down the left through Zaha, but now we are more balanced.
3) Moved Ayew into his most effective position down the middle.
4) Got us playing higher up the field recognising Guehi and Anderson are more mobile than his previous choices.

Roy has demonstrated he is not a one trick pony playing deep and hitting teams on the counter.
He knows what he’s doing and with the right resources he knows how to use them.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 May 23 9.56am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was happy when Roy left a couple of seasons ago as it seemed the right time for him to go while acknowledging that he had done some excellent work in his first couple of seasons.
However, he looks a good fit for the current squad of players and they have responded well to his coaching methods.
Simplicity can be genius in football and Roy has,
1) Got Schlupp in his most effective position driving forward from an inside left position where he can use his pace and power
2) Moved Eze to an inside right position where he can link effectively with Olise and get closer to goal to demonstrate his clever footwork. When was the last time we looked as threatening down our right side? Our threat has almost exclusively been down the left through Zaha, but now we are more balanced.
3) Moved Ayew into his most effective position down the middle.
4) Got us playing higher up the field recognising Guehi and Anderson are more mobile than his previous choices.

Roy has demonstrated he is not a one trick pony playing deep and hitting teams on the counter.
He knows what he’s doing and with the right resources he knows how to use them.

I garland these sentiments with concurrence and praise.
I doff my hat.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 May 23 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

Totally agree with this
However , I fully believe we would have been relegated if PV wasn’t sacked , the players had no belief on themselves and as you say , compared to now playing with smiles on their faces, they looked sapped of energy and confidence , I mean the biggest example of this is Olise , he’s really come out of his shell since Roy has taken back over

Absolutely agree.

Roy for me a pragmatic manager which meant keeping a limited team in the PL but thus far has looked to exploit, as best possible, the greater and more expansive talent at hand.

I firmly believe that alongside a clam, experienced, paternal arm around the shoulder is all this group needs to perform at the level it is capable of. All things Vieira seemed lacking in.

As with any or many managers, there may come a time when a change is needed and this will not last forever more, however for the time being, it looks to not only be the answer we needed but ultimately the absolute correct decision from the board. We looked to be in very serious trouble and that fear has completely vanished for now.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 06 May 23 12.30pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

Totally agree with this
However , I fully believe we would have been relegated if PV wasn’t sacked , the players had no belief on themselves and as you say , compared to now playing with smiles on their faces, they looked sapped of energy and confidence , I mean the biggest example of this is Olise , he’s really come out of his shell since Roy has taken back over

I totally disagree, much as I love Roy, he’s obviously had the luxury of playing poor, out of form teams. I know we’ll never know for sure and everyone sees it one way or the other, but imo PV would have comfortably kept us up as well. Roy’s not getting more out of our attacking players, they’ve just suddenly developed the freedom to have a go because of the quality of opposition, simple as that.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 May 23 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

I totally disagree, much as I love Roy, he’s obviously had the luxury of playing poor, out of form teams. I know we’ll never know for sure and everyone sees it one way or the other, but imo PV would have comfortably kept us up as well. Roy’s not getting more out of our attacking players, they’ve just suddenly developed the freedom to have a go because of the quality of opposition, simple as that.

i strongly disagree Monkey.

From all the games I saw, which was most , it wasn’t the same team not even close. Rumours of PV going missing, his general behaviour and players discontent too. Whether he would keep us up or not anyone’s guess but we set a record vs Leicester ( I think) for attempts in one half, something like that, not long where under PV we failed to register a single shot on target for multiple games.

Having seen most these matches, it did not look like the same team just playing better or worse opposition. Something was seriously unwell before and whether it’s Roy’s coming, PV’s departure or a combination of both, it had to happen and we look entirely different. Something was well and truly rotten in the state of Norwood.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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est1905 Flag 06 May 23 12.57pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

GRR angry post. Didn't say I thought it. Didn't even say it was sensible. Could work. Probably won't. Might work??

But as a teaser, since moving to 1st team the u21 have been rubbish in the league..?

Oh dear, So by that reckoning you think he's the new Pep do you? Please dont hide behind the 'I dont think that, I'm only saying what others are saying'
If you didn't believe it yourself you wouldn't be saying it yourself.

 

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OneMax Flag Maidstone 06 May 23 3.27pm Send a Private Message to OneMax Add OneMax as a friend

Palace need someone who knows how to Manage successfully in the Premier League on a small budget. Has experience of European Football. Can communicate with player hopefully in there own language. Understands and lives in South London .Do you know anyone

 

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