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waddy Flag Highton,Melbourne 06 May 23 4.42pm

We are a challenge for any coach unless they are over 60 or on the lower rungs of the ladder.

The first question from the coach at the interview to Parish is :

“ so , Holloway,Pulis left due to lack of investment.Jan 23 window was a s*** of an investment- what’s your thoughts for 23/24 Steve & remember I’m here cos you need me not I need you “ ?

second question :

“ come Jan 24 & we are hovering at 13/14 th spot will you do what you have done past 5 seasons , or will you avoid this & go for top 10 seriously “ ?

 


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Originally posted by waddy

We are a challenge for any coach unless they are over 60 or on the lower rungs of the ladder.

The first question from the coach at the interview to Parish is :

“ so , Holloway,Pulis left due to lack of investment.Jan 23 window was a s*** of an investment- what’s your thoughts for 23/24 Steve & remember I’m here cos you need me not I need you “ ?

second question :

“ come Jan 24 & we are hovering at 13/14 th spot will you do what you have done past 5 seasons , or will you avoid this & go for top 10 seriously “ ?

It's the same stuff every season, we've found our niche which is around 12th to 14th. Parish must be happy with it, its been our lot for 10 seasons with the occasional relegation scare thrown in to add a bit of excitement. Pushing on for somewhere around 8th with this team, this manager, this stadium, this chairman, this level of investment is highly unlikely. So this is it basically.

 

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Originally posted by waddy

We are a challenge for any coach unless they are over 60 or on the lower rungs of the ladder.

The first question from the coach at the interview to Parish is :

“ so , Holloway,Pulis left due to lack of investment.Jan 23 window was a s*** of an investment- what’s your thoughts for 23/24 Steve & remember I’m here cos you need me not I need you “ ?

second question :

“ come Jan 24 & we are hovering at 13/14 th spot will you do what you have done past 5 seasons , or will you avoid this & go for top 10 seriously “ ?

Holloway left because he admitted he was out of his depth. Pulis left because he thought he could wangle a way of getting a 2m bonus and walking away-nothing to do with lack of investment in either case.
The 'you need me more than I need you comment' is just idiotic. Apart from the very top European managers (Pochetino, Conte, Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Anchellotti, etc, etc) of which NOBODY outside the top 6 have a chance of getting, every other out of work manager in UK or Europe would have interest in the Palace job. Best division in the World? Best City in the World? Some quality players? A thriving academy on an upwards curve?
Why would Parish need to sell the job to anyone? If I were Parish and a manager came to an interview with that attitude I would politely say thanks for coming, this isn't going to work. There can only be one boss in an organisation. You dont bow and scrape to a potential employee

 

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Originally posted by est1905

Holloway left because he admitted he was out of his depth. Pulis left because he thought he could wangle a way of getting a 2m bonus and walking away-nothing to do with lack of investment in either case.
The 'you need me more than I need you comment' is just idiotic. Apart from the very top European managers (Pochetino, Conte, Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Anchellotti, etc, etc) of which NOBODY outside the top 6 have a chance of getting, every other out of work manager in UK or Europe would have interest in the Palace job. Best division in the World? Best City in the World? Some quality players? A thriving academy on an upwards curve?
Why would Parish need to sell the job to anyone? If I were Parish and a manager came to an interview with that attitude I would politely say thanks for coming, this isn't going to work. There can only be one boss in an organisation. You dont bow and scrape to a potential employee

Correct Holloway left because the club was amateur having him do multi jobs which was too much for him at this level.

Pullis you are wrong he would have stayed but the club didn't want to advance.

The same case with Big Sam (he had to beg the owners for extra funds in Jan)

More nonsense Palace do not have lots of people lining up for the job at all and have you forgotten many managers which turned them down Lampard was one of them.

SO you think because its best league and city managers would be begging to come laughable the club is run like semi pro setup and not even financial setup well.

Yes SP the man who has so much knowledge and experience who is world class at the role NOT

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

Correct Holloway left because the club was amateur having him do multi jobs which was too much for him at this level.

Pullis you are wrong he would have stayed but the club didn't want to advance.

The same case with Big Sam (he had to beg the owners for extra funds in Jan)

More nonsense Palace do not have lots of people lining up for the job at all and have you forgotten many managers which turned them down Lampard was one of them.

SO you think because its best league and city managers would be begging to come laughable the club is run like semi pro setup and not even financial setup well.

Yes SP the man who has so much knowledge and experience who is world class at the role NOT


Don't always agree with everything that SP does but the notion that he isn't knowledgeable or good at his job is laughable.

Aside from the fact that he has led us to comfortably the most successful period in our history and built us a world class academy and training facility, all while stabilising the club financially, he has also pretty become a leader among the non big 6 clubs when it comes to issues like the European Super League and revenue distribution.

Would suggest that if other chairmen respect him enough to lead on these issues, perhaps he knows a little more than you are giving him credit for.

 


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Don't always agree with everything that SP does but the notion that he isn't knowledgeable or good at his job is laughable.

Aside from the fact that he has led us to comfortably the most successful period in our history and built us a world class academy and training facility, all while stabilising the club financially, he has also pretty become a leader among the non big 6 clubs when it comes to issues like the European Super League and revenue distribution.

Would suggest that if other chairmen respect him enough to lead on these issues, perhaps he knows a little more than you are giving him credit for.


Fiances show otherwise and he was the one who allowed the two Americans people like to moan about into the club knowing they wasn't going to pump money into it.

World class academy LOL and who has this academy produced ??? you know he didn't fund that right it was down to Textor.

The same person who keeps bringing people with attachment to the club yes he is great at his job not going for talent but ties.

Takes more out of the club then puts in.

People need to stop living in the past because he was one of them that helped save the club (he also allowed it to almost go bust so he could get it for almost 0)

Last one hires a manager and fires him after what was it 6 games

Edited by grumpymort (06 May 2023 9.40pm)

 


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A manager going into Palace must know that the budget is there, but limited.. and the remit is 40 points with a cup run.

Now.. don't get me wrong, but an experienced prem manager realties that's 70% of the league.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 07 May 23 2.52am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

It's the same stuff every season, we've found our niche which is around 12th to 14th. Parish must be happy with it, its been our lot for 10 seasons with the occasional relegation scare thrown in to add a bit of excitement. Pushing on for somewhere around 8th with this team, this manager, this stadium, this chairman, this level of investment is highly unlikely. So this is it basically.

Pretty much this

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 07 May 23 8.52am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Pretty much this

Sadly yes. Then Parish will have seen other clubs like Everton pump the sort of cash we are screaming for him to spend to get into the top tier...

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

Correct Holloway left because the club was amateur having him do multi jobs which was too much for him at this level.

Pullis you are wrong he would have stayed but the club didn't want to advance.

The same case with Big Sam (he had to beg the owners for extra funds in Jan)

More nonsense Palace do not have lots of people lining up for the job at all and have you forgotten many managers which turned them down Lampard was one of them.

SO you think because its best league and city managers would be begging to come laughable the club is run like semi pro setup and not even financial setup well.

Yes SP the man who has so much knowledge and experience who is world class at the role NOT

I get why they left but as there wasn't the money to finance their ambitions Parish made the right call.

We do need investment but until an owner with the magic money tree turns up the best thing is to keep the club stable.

Charlton are a basket case club much like Pompey were with one dodgy owner after another.

I suspect that if the right owner turns up SP will pack it in and walk away until then we will have to settle for mid table mediocrity.

 


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View Wright stuff's Profile Wright stuff Flag Bexley 07 May 23 9.24am Send a Private Message to Wright stuff Add Wright stuff as a friend

I would love for Palace to finish in the European places every season , play in Europe, challenge every season for a trophy, maybe even win one. But as the posts above state until a rich investor comes along surviving in the Premier league is our goal, beating the occasional top 6 team our ‘Cup Final’.
Having been to the Spurs match yesterday and witnessed the library type atmosphere created by the state of the art stadium, give me our run down stadium with atmosphere every time.
You do not know what to expect with Palace, that’s what makes it exciting & obviously frustrating.
Parish has done a great job of stabilising the club, as long as we release the dead wood, keep & add to the young talent our goal next season should be to finish In top 10.
I think we are punching above our weight just by being in the Prem, so long may it continue.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

Correct Holloway left because the club was amateur having him do multi jobs which was too much for him at this level.

Pullis you are wrong he would have stayed but the club didn't want to advance.

The same case with Big Sam (he had to beg the owners for extra funds in Jan)

More nonsense Palace do not have lots of people lining up for the job at all and have you forgotten many managers which turned them down Lampard was one of them.

SO you think because its best league and city managers would be begging to come laughable the club is run like semi pro setup and not even financial setup well.

Yes SP the man who has so much knowledge and experience who is world class at the role NOT

Lampard did not turn Palace down, by all accounts his interview was appalling and was never offered the job. If you want to criticise everything about the club, at least get your facts correct

 

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